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as i said, i wrote that. not attributing or quoting.

still waiting to hear what this point is/was.

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On 10/3/08 Huckleberry wrote:

Something we can agree on DaKlute.

I believe that Geraldo's point has been fairly clearly stated here already. First perceptions are real,albeit rarely an accurate way to assess anyone. He urged parents of black/hispanic kids to reject "gangsta" fashion for their children. Seems clear cut that "dress for success" never goes away.

And put me down as another in the "Geraldo is a tool" camp.

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This story is a tragedy. I can't say I am familiar with all aspects of the case but from what I have read, I am not sure why we jump to racial corners. I think the shooter needs to see some additional scrutiny here and if the facts warrant, prosecuted. But I don't see a racial component to the shooting. I think the guy was just a scumbag nut job high on some self appointed power trip. The cops told him to back off and he didn't. The number of calls to police in the previous months was ridiculous. All of that should come into play.

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that makes no sense.

except for the tool part.

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On 10/3/08 Huckleberry wrote:

Something we can agree on DaKlute.

Have they arrested this turd yet?

Zimmerman, not Geraldo.

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Because people don't make initial impressions based on attire? I didn't realize flip flops and a wife beater or a suit didn't matter in a job interview.

I say we do a test: let's dress Geraldo in a yamica and the proper Jewish attire drop him off in the middle of an angry mob in Iran or a bedsheet and pillow case and drop him in south central LA.

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That's the second time this sort of thing has been mentioned. I don't agree that a kid walking home from the store through his neighborhood wearing a hoodie equates to dressing like the KKK (a symbol for fear, hate, and intolerance) in a black neighborhood.

Where did I say that? I simply said that attire is important in initial impressions. Let's not oversimply it and go "anything not at ______ level is wrong". If my kid goes to a job interview in a t-shirt there's a different initial judgement than if he goes in a nice polo shirt. That's life, whether we like it or not.

As to this case, no I don't see a hoodie as some great menacing threat. I think Zimmerman is an azzhat and is responsible at the minimum probably to a manslaughter charge but I also don't think he broke his own nose to cover anything up.

Besides, I still want to run this test scenario with Geraldo. I think we'd all enjoy the results.

Is it progress that we're judged by the content of our wardrobe instead of the color of our skin?

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Fox News has apparently grown concerned that their apparel is sought after by gansta utes

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hooded-s ... ine-store/

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It doesn't. But for lots of people it equates to the white t-shirts and jeans that street criminals wear (at least in my city) to make witness ID harder for the police. Attire can lead to additional attention. Sometimes that higher attention is desired. In this case, the attention was from a (allegedly) dangerously unstable person who shot and killed him.

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So the kid is to blame for wearing a hoodie. And a woman is to blame for being raped if she wears a skirt.

No they're not. I didn't say they were. I'm saying the same thing as someone else said...perceptions are real. You need to be aware of the perceptions and understand how to mitigate them. Don't wear a "leaglize pot" t-shirt to your job interview. Clean your car before you pick up your date. If you're walking into a convenience store to buy something, lowering your hood and/or removing your sunglasses for 10 min. will lower the cashier's anxiety. You can still run into some crazy a-hole who will just find another reason to focus his attention on you...but if nobody ever acknowledges that the perceptions can lead to real consequences then the risk for a bad outcome increases.

The kid isn't to blame for wearing a hoodie. But wearing a hoodie might have drawn the attention of a dangerous individual. Maybe he would have drawn that attention just because he was black. He's just as dead either way...but if he had been aware of the perceptions, and had mitigated the risk he might be alive today.

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Right, and a woman should be aware that a skirt might attract the attention of a rapist.

Y'all shoulda known better'n wear that hooded sweathshirt, BOY.

Do you think there is a reason why police detctives don't wear the uniform that patrol officers wear? Is there a reason why doctors wear labcoats that are white? Any special reason why the people behind the counter at McDonald's wear the same shirt and same color pants?

You seem bent on denying something that has been proven time and again to be a truism of human perception, and you seem to be angry that someone dared to point it out (although to be fair, he did so in a douchey and sensationalist way that basically ruins the message). There's no reason not to be upset that the perceptions are wrong/unfair/whatever. But denying they exist does nothing to combat them.

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