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PostPosted: Thu 02.09.2012, 18:03 
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ord-routt/

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The new regime of the Raiders has begun erasing what it believes to be the mistakes of the past, with the first big move coming in the release of cornerback Stanford Routt Thursday.

Routt was signed last offseason to a three-year, $31.5 million contract extension that at the time made him the third highest cornerback in the NFL just a few days before the NFL lockout began.

Routt was retained by owner Al Davis while at the same time the club made no effort to re-sign Nnamdi Asomugha, who eventually signed with the Philadelphia Eagles.

A later restructure boosted the value of the deal to five years and $54.5 million.

Routt’s contract reportedly guaranteed him $20 million, meaning the Raiders could be out that amount depending on wording of the deal.


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If they're going to get rid of every bad contract Al gave, nobody is going to be left.

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Raiders might have to cut Wimbley, Seymour or Huff, and probably have to restructure a few contracts. Al Davis put this team in a really bad place.


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PostPosted: Fri 02.10.2012, 09:40 
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My first thought is with zero draft picks ask these guys to restructure contracts and trade them or threaten to cut them late when the teams have zero cap room left.

i got to believe there are several players who just want out at this point.

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PostPosted: Fri 02.10.2012, 10:24 
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So why did the Raiders dump cornerback Stanford Routt today?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... routt-now/

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Per a source with knowledge of his contract, Routt’s $5 million base salary for 2012 would have become fully guaranteed if he had been on the roster five days after the start of the 2012 waiver period.


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A high salary (along with pending bonus)
propensity for penalties
possible scheme change to more of zone coverage (known as man corner, limitations in zone coverage, inability to play the ball)
Send a message to other players on the roster

I am sure McKenzie could have got atleast a mid round pick for Routt. Wonder if they did not pursue that option because of the looming bonus. At any rate we broadcast our need for CB in the draft/FA market.


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PostPosted: Fri 02.10.2012, 10:59 
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I am sure McKenzie could have got atleast a mid round pick for Routt. Wonder if they did not pursue that option because of the looming bonus. At any rate we broadcast our need for CB in the draft/FA market.


Routt could be a decent #2 CB but Al gave him a shutdown corner contract in a knee jerk reaction to losing Aso. No one was going to take that on.

If I'm Michael Huff, I'm very nervous

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PostPosted: Fri 02.10.2012, 12:09 
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R2000 wrote:
I am sure McKenzie could have got atleast a mid round pick for Routt. Wonder if they did not pursue that option because of the looming bonus. At any rate we broadcast our need for CB in the draft/FA market.


Routt could be a decent #2 CB but Al gave him a shutdown corner contract in a knee jerk reaction to losing Aso. No one was going to take that on.

If I'm Michael Huff, I'm very nervous


Al extended Routt before Aso's departure. Routt's contract all but sealed Aso's departure. :x It's debatable (probably not) that Aso would have re-signed with us for the amount he did with Philly, but it staggers the mind to think that we could have had Aso rather than Routt for only 3M more per year :evil:

Add Big Seymour, Kelly, John Henderson and McClain along with Huff to the 'should be nervous' list


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R2000 wrote:
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I am sure McKenzie could have got atleast a mid round pick for Routt. Wonder if they did not pursue that option because of the looming bonus. At any rate we broadcast our need for CB in the draft/FA market.


Routt could be a decent #2 CB but Al gave him a shutdown corner contract in a knee jerk reaction to losing Aso. No one was going to take that on.

If I'm Michael Huff, I'm very nervous


Al extended Routt before Aso's departure. Routt's contract all but sealed Aso's departure. :x It's debatable (probably not) that Aso would have re-signed with us for the amount he did with Philly, but it staggers the mind to think that we could have had Aso rather than Routt for only 3M more per year :evil:

Add Big Seymour, Kelly, John Henderson and McClain along with Huff to the 'should be nervous' list


I've always assumed Al knew he was losing Aso and wanted to make sure his #2 wasn't going to leave.

That made some sense on some level as opposed to the Huff and Kelly deals.

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PostPosted: Fri 02.10.2012, 15:11 
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nope,we could have resigned aso for what al davis paid stanford routt +/- a little for me its a no brainer,you resign aso over stanford

aaron curry,huff,henderson,cj,seymore,groves,boss,kelly need to be very worried...none have perofrmed to their pay !!!

ps dmac outta be careful as well imo


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Listening to the Dallas Sports Talk Shows today, the Cowboys are making a play for Routt.
Since Jerry lost out to Philly last year, now he wants his replacement.
The shape the Cowboys secondary is in, wouldn`t be a bad move if they dont overpay him.


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endzoneview wrote:
mstrbass2000 wrote:

I've always assumed Al knew he was losing Aso and wanted to make sure his #2 wasn't going to leave.

That made some sense on some level as opposed to the Huff and Kelly deals.


nope,we could have resigned aso for what al davis paid stanford routt +/- a little for me its a no brainer,you resign aso over stanford



Not even remotely close to what I said

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mstrbass2000 wrote:
nope,we could have resigned aso for what al davis paid stanford routt +/- a little for me its a no brainer,you resign aso over stanford

aaron curry,huff,henderson,cj,seymore,groves,boss,kelly need to be very worried...none have perofrmed to their pay !!!

ps dmac outta be careful as well imo

I think Curry and Huff are safe, but the others I am not so sure.


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we need to get rid of richard seymore and his 15 million dollar number for this yr


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mstrbass2000 wrote:
we need to get rid of Richard Seymour and his 15 million dollar number for this yr


Raiders face a cap hit of 7.5M if we cut Seymour this year. Expected cap savings are only 7.5M in base salary, not 15M. Considering he played injured last year, McKenzie may ask him to restructure or take a paycut instead of/before releasing him. If it's a case of releasing him, it comes down to what's the best use of 7.5M, Seymour or the players purchasable with 7.5M.


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R2000 wrote:
mstrbass2000 wrote:
we need to get rid of Richard Seymour and his 15 million dollar number for this yr


Raiders face a cap hit of 7.5M if we cut Seymour this year. Expected cap savings are only 7.5M in base salary, not 15M. Considering he played injured last year, McKenzie may ask him to restructure or take a paycut instead of/before releasing him. If it's a case of releasing him, it comes down to what's the best use of 7.5M, Seymour or the players purchasable with 7.5M.



Not sure this is correct.

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2/16/2011: Signed a two-year, $30 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed -- all in the form of Seymour's first-year base salary. 2012: $7.5 million (+ $7.5 million roster bonus),


Looks to me if you cut him your free and clear.


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