Tannehill drafted in top 5-10?

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pinksheets wrote:I don't accept that premise at all.

You can't do that, I'm stating my reasons for not accepting your premise :P


I firmly believe he'll draft-day fall to the 2nd round. You give me a compelling reason why he won't.

Because he's a quarterback. They get overvalued and overdrafted every year. Obviously we'll have a somewhat clearer picture once FA shakes out. Your initial premise assumes a lot of things that haven't happened yet, once everyone gets settled in, we'll see. Just look at Locker and Ponder last year. Lots of people had Locker falling way out of the 1st, Ponder had garnered late 1st/early 2nd buzz and made the leap.

Some people really, really like Tannehill. Don't ask me why, haha, but people, even so called experts, are often very wrong. Remember Mayock's top 2 QBs going into last year's draft? 1. Gabbert 2. Newton. :lol:
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pinksheets wrote:
jnadke wrote:
pinksheets wrote:I don't accept that premise at all.

You can't do that, I'm stating my reasons for not accepting your premise :P


I firmly believe he'll draft-day fall to the 2nd round. You give me a compelling reason why he won't.

Because he's a quarterback. They get overvalued and overdrafted every year. Obviously we'll have a somewhat clearer picture once FA shakes out. Your initial premise assumes a lot of things that haven't happened yet, once everyone gets settled in, we'll see. Just look at Locker and Ponder last year. Lots of people had Locker falling way out of the 1st, Ponder had garnered late 1st/early 2nd buzz and made the leap.

Some people really, really like Tannehill. Don't ask me why, haha, but people, even so called experts, are often very wrong. Remember Mayock's top 2 QBs going into last year's draft? 1. Gabbert 2. Newton. :lol:


True, but your assumption is every team is irrational. There are rational teams.

My belief is that all the irrational teams drafted their QB during the run on QBs last year. The only teams left that are QB-less are Seahawks, Browns, and Chiefs, all of which are cheapskates. Of those, the only team with a history of wasting 1st round picks on QBs is the Browns.

Don't forget, Arizona just send a 1st round-grade CB and a 2nd round pick for Kolb. They're invested.
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jnadke wrote:
pinksheets wrote:
jnadke wrote:
pinksheets wrote:I don't accept that premise at all.

You can't do that, I'm stating my reasons for not accepting your premise :P


I firmly believe he'll draft-day fall to the 2nd round. You give me a compelling reason why he won't.

Because he's a quarterback. They get overvalued and overdrafted every year. Obviously we'll have a somewhat clearer picture once FA shakes out. Your initial premise assumes a lot of things that haven't happened yet, once everyone gets settled in, we'll see. Just look at Locker and Ponder last year. Lots of people had Locker falling way out of the 1st, Ponder had garnered late 1st/early 2nd buzz and made the leap.

Some people really, really like Tannehill. Don't ask me why, haha, but people, even so called experts, are often very wrong. Remember Mayock's top 2 QBs going into last year's draft? 1. Gabbert 2. Newton. :lol:


True, but your assumption is every team is irrational. There are rational teams.

My belief is that all the irrational teams drafted their QB during the run on QBs last year. The only teams left that are QB-less are Seahawks, Browns, and Chiefs, all of which are cheapskates. Of those, the only team with a history of wasting 1st round picks on QBs is the Browns.

Don't forget, Arizona just send a 1st round-grade CB and a 2nd round pick for Kolb. They're invested.


Actually, it only takes 1 irrational team and I wouldnt bet against at 1 being stupid and panicking.
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endzoneview wrote:Scare tactic.

Teams are trying to scare the Browns into taking him at 4. That's not very nice.


Ill puke if they take him at #4.. :F :F :F :F :F

Richardson, Claiborn, and blackmon on the board?? NFW
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Fighting Amish wrote:
endzoneview wrote:Scare tactic.

Teams are trying to scare the Browns into taking him at 4. That's not very nice.


Ill puke if they take him at #4.. :F :F :F :F :F

Richardson, Claiborn, and blackmon on the board?? NFW

I would be stoked. Then the jags could draft one of those guys or has more leverage to trade down.
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i think any speculation him is redamndiculous..
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Fighting Amish wrote:
endzoneview wrote:Scare tactic.

Teams are trying to scare the Browns into taking him at 4. That's not very nice.


Ill puke if they take him at #4.. :F :F :F :F :F

Richardson, Claiborn, and blackmon on the board?? NFW



My thoughts EXACTLY. No way should we take such an unproven commodity so high when all that talent is there to be had at other positions. Hell, it's not like we're a QB away from winning the division or anything. There are needs up and down the roster.
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th3pun1sh3r wrote:
Fighting Amish wrote:
endzoneview wrote:Scare tactic.

Teams are trying to scare the Browns into taking him at 4. That's not very nice.


Ill puke if they take him at #4.. :F :F :F :F :F

Richardson, Claiborn, and blackmon on the board?? NFW



My thoughts EXACTLY. No way should we take such an unproven commodity so high when all that talent is there to be had at other positions. Hell, it's not like we're a QB away from winning the division or anything. There are needs up and down the roster.



I would say it is extremely unlikely they take him unless they move down. The top 6 is pretty much set in stone, just the order is not.

Flynn going to Seattle really hurts Tannehill as they were def an option at 12 or a canditate to move up and snag him. I guess Miami could take him but the way their performing this offseason he will refuse to go their before the draft and demand a trade if selected.
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Weeden is a way better prospect. A franchise caliber QB for 7 years is better than a bust.

Tannehill's numbers are pretty poor, even in a poor Big 12 this year. If teams draft him in the top 10, that just means better talent for my Panthers to draft later.
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KeKeKe Zergling Rush wrote:Weeden is a way better prospect. A franchise caliber QB for 7 years is better than a bust.

Tannehill's numbers are pretty poor, even in a poor Big 12 this year. If teams draft him in the top 10, that just means better talent for my Panthers to draft later.


I wouldn't want anything to do with Chris Weinke Jr.

Weeden's a good player from a great scheme playing horrendous defenses.
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Every meaningful stat of Tannehill's is worse than Weeden's. Its not close. I put Luck & Griffin's numbers in there for comparison. Talking about drafting Tannehill in the same ballpark as Luck & Griffin is lunacy. Doesn't mean I think the Browns/Dolphins won't do it, because NFL teams are full of retards. But they shouldn't.

Weeden:
Yards per Attempt - 8.4
Interception Percentage - 2.4%
Completion Percentage - 69.7%
Sack Percentage - 1.9%


Tannehill:
Yards per Attempt - 7.03
Interception Percentage - 2.7%
Completion Percentage - 62.6%
Sack Percentage - 2.7%


Luck:
Yards per Attempt - 8.8
Interception Percentage - 2.3%
Completion Percentage - 71.0%
Sack Percentage - 2.2%


Griffin:
Yards per Attempt - 9.1
Interception Percentage - 1.6%
Completion Percentage - 69.5%
Sack Percentage - 5.5%


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And stats from Chris Weinke as well.

Chris Weinke:
Yards per Attempt - 9.7
Interception Percentage - 3.1%
Completion Percentage - 61.7%
Sack Percentage - Not Tracked
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Yards per Attempt- 9.3
Interception Percentage- 0.8%
Completion Percentage- 71%

Either stats are deceptive or Case Keenum is going to be a helluva franchise quarterback,
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I hear the defenses in conference USA are AWESOME! Any idiot considers the context the numbers come from, rather than just the number....
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The point being...college stats are in no way indicative of NFL performance nor are they the main focus of NFL scouts. Posting them doesn't really make any point at all.
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KeKeKe Zergling Rush wrote:I hear the defenses in conference USA are AWESOME! Any idiot considers the context the numbers come from, rather than just the number....


I hate to break it to you, but the defenses in C-USA weren't any worse than what Okie St faced. They had 5 of the worst 20 defenses in Division 1A. Big 12 defenses sucked balls.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/stats/team-total-defense

And that also means Weeden faced 5 of the worst 17 pass defenses to be found last year. Not exactly SEC defenses, and those still are AA ball compared to the pros.
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