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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
PostPosted: Tue 03.20.2012, 13:33 
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If the rumors are true, I will say that I respect it. While he left $4 mil in SD, he's still signed for $8.4 mil, which is a lot of money. He can live very well on that if he's even remotely reasonable, and he gets to do it near his family and community.

There are more important things in the world than money. So kudos to him for getting it, if that really is the case.


Not to mention the cost of living in Carolina is drastically lower than that of Southern California.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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I can't believe FBs are even employed in NFL anymore, let alone given good $$.

he wasn't given really good money. this year he's only getting $700k and the rest of the years it's around $2mil a year.

considering all the ways he's going to be used and play time he's going to be getting and the talent that he's bringing, the dude is a bargain.


I was talking in general about FBs. Tolbert obviously has some RB skills that make him more valuable than the typical tree stump FB. Those one dimensional guys really need to find new work in today's NFL.

oh...100% agreed with that. they could always find work on a john fox team, though. i guess now in tampa as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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endzoneview wrote:
vonbearsalot wrote:
If the rumors are true, I will say that I respect it. While he left $4 mil in SD, he's still signed for $8.4 mil, which is a lot of money. He can live very well on that if he's even remotely reasonable, and he gets to do it near his family and community.

There are more important things in the world than money. So kudos to him for getting it, if that really is the case.


Not to mention the cost of living in Carolina is drastically lower than that of Southern California.


You guys are all assuming that he's thinking like we'd all think about our employment opportunities. I can't remember the last time an NFL player in his prime, with the opportunity free agency might have afforded in both money and starting opportunity, chose to take less money and consign himself to a backup role for the sake of things like cost of living, location, family proximity, and such.

If that is really what happened here then more power to him for sure. But I'm more inclined to think he found a far softer market for his services than he thought was out there, and he didn't like the idea of going back to San Diego, so he made the best of a less advantageous situation.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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JimHart wrote:
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vonbearsalot wrote:
If the rumors are true, I will say that I respect it. While he left $4 mil in SD, he's still signed for $8.4 mil, which is a lot of money. He can live very well on that if he's even remotely reasonable, and he gets to do it near his family and community.

There are more important things in the world than money. So kudos to him for getting it, if that really is the case.


Not to mention the cost of living in Carolina is drastically lower than that of Southern California.


You guys are all assuming that he's thinking like we'd all think about our employment opportunities. I can't remember the last time an NFL player in his prime, with the opportunity free agency might have afforded in both money and starting opportunity, chose to take less money and consign himself to a backup role for the sake of things like cost of living, location, family proximity, and such.

If that is really what happened here then more power to him for sure. But I'm more inclined to think he found a far softer market for his services than he thought was out there, and he didn't like the idea of going back to San Diego, so he made the best of a less advantageous situation.


I thought that was obvious. He visited the Chiefs I think and they signed Hillis shortly after.

I was just discussing his decision between returning to San Diego and going home.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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Actually a good move by the Carolina Chargers.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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endzoneview wrote:
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endzoneview wrote:
vonbearsalot wrote:
If the rumors are true, I will say that I respect it. While he left $4 mil in SD, he's still signed for $8.4 mil, which is a lot of money. He can live very well on that if he's even remotely reasonable, and he gets to do it near his family and community.

There are more important things in the world than money. So kudos to him for getting it, if that really is the case.


Not to mention the cost of living in Carolina is drastically lower than that of Southern California.


You guys are all assuming that he's thinking like we'd all think about our employment opportunities. I can't remember the last time an NFL player in his prime, with the opportunity free agency might have afforded in both money and starting opportunity, chose to take less money and consign himself to a backup role for the sake of things like cost of living, location, family proximity, and such.

If that is really what happened here then more power to him for sure. But I'm more inclined to think he found a far softer market for his services than he thought was out there, and he didn't like the idea of going back to San Diego, so he made the best of a less advantageous situation.


I thought that was obvious. He visited the Chiefs I think and they signed Hillis shortly after.

I was just discussing his decision between returning to San Diego and going home.

Probably increases his a career a couple of years also.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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Great move for the Panthers. Absolutely skyrockets Mathews value in all formats. Devalues DWill and JStew's already low stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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According to Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange, the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.
After signing Mike Tolbert, the Panthers quickly put out word that Stewart wasn't on the trade block, perhaps for fear of losing leverage. Per Pasquarelli, however, the Steelers could be a "sleeper" to make a run at Stewart, and "everyone" has made the Broncos the favorite to acquire the versatile, 25-year-old back. Pasquarelli does concede "there hasn't been anything serious yet."
Source: Yahoo Sports


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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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Try a google image search using "Jonathan Stewart fantasy football owners" as the search term.

As an alternate search, you could probably use "Mike Tolbert" or "DWill" fantasy football owners too.

As a multi Tolbert owner, I may even try it myself. :thumbright:


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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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5th down wrote:
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According to Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange, the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.
After signing Mike Tolbert, the Panthers quickly put out word that Stewart wasn't on the trade block, perhaps for fear of losing leverage. Per Pasquarelli, however, the Steelers could be a "sleeper" to make a run at Stewart, and "everyone" has made the Broncos the favorite to acquire the versatile, 25-year-old back. Pasquarelli does concede "there hasn't been anything serious yet."
Source: Yahoo Sports


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As a matter of fact... :eusa_pray:

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 Post subject: Re: Another Carolina RB?
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5th down wrote:
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According to Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange, the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.
After signing Mike Tolbert, the Panthers quickly put out word that Stewart wasn't on the trade block, perhaps for fear of losing leverage. Per Pasquarelli, however, the Steelers could be a "sleeper" to make a run at Stewart, and "everyone" has made the Broncos the favorite to acquire the versatile, 25-year-old back. Pasquarelli does concede "there hasn't been anything serious yet."
Source: Yahoo Sports


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I would love to see J-Stew go to the Broncos. Good fit and they need someone else given that Moreno is awful/injury proned loser, and McGahee needs someone to help out. I've liked Stewart since college, and if he gets the right opportunity and is healthy, I think he can be huge for the Broncos.


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I'd love, love, love to see JStew go to Pitt. That would be amazing ... from a fantasy perspective.


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5th down wrote:
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According to Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange, the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.
After signing Mike Tolbert, the Panthers quickly put out word that Stewart wasn't on the trade block, perhaps for fear of losing leverage. Per Pasquarelli, however, the Steelers could be a "sleeper" to make a run at Stewart, and "everyone" has made the Broncos the favorite to acquire the versatile, 25-year-old back. Pasquarelli does concede "there hasn't been anything serious yet."
Source: Yahoo Sports


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I would love to see J-Stew go to the Broncos. Good fit and they need someone else given that Moreno is awful/injury proned loser, and McGahee needs someone to help out. I've liked Stewart since college, and if he gets the right opportunity and is healthy, I think he can be huge for the Broncos.



I hope he doesnt, sharing carries with mcgahee, in a pass heavy offense.


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rugger48 wrote:
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5th down wrote:
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According to Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange, the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.
After signing Mike Tolbert, the Panthers quickly put out word that Stewart wasn't on the trade block, perhaps for fear of losing leverage. Per Pasquarelli, however, the Steelers could be a "sleeper" to make a run at Stewart, and "everyone" has made the Broncos the favorite to acquire the versatile, 25-year-old back. Pasquarelli does concede "there hasn't been anything serious yet."
Source: Yahoo Sports


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I would love to see J-Stew go to the Broncos. Good fit and they need someone else given that Moreno is awful/injury proned loser, and McGahee needs someone to help out. I've liked Stewart since college, and if he gets the right opportunity and is healthy, I think he can be huge for the Broncos.



I hope he doesnt, sharing carries with mcgahee, in a pass heavy offense.


Would you like to see him in Pitt?


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JimHart wrote:
rugger48 wrote:
mobsters wrote:
5th down wrote:
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According to Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange, the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.
After signing Mike Tolbert, the Panthers quickly put out word that Stewart wasn't on the trade block, perhaps for fear of losing leverage. Per Pasquarelli, however, the Steelers could be a "sleeper" to make a run at Stewart, and "everyone" has made the Broncos the favorite to acquire the versatile, 25-year-old back. Pasquarelli does concede "there hasn't been anything serious yet."
Source: Yahoo Sports


Is there a smiley with hands together and eyes closed looking up to heaven?


I would love to see J-Stew go to the Broncos. Good fit and they need someone else given that Moreno is awful/injury proned loser, and McGahee needs someone to help out. I've liked Stewart since college, and if he gets the right opportunity and is healthy, I think he can be huge for the Broncos.



I hope he doesnt, sharing carries with mcgahee, in a pass heavy offense.


Would you like to see him in Pitt?


for the right price, I wouldnt want to give up a 2nd, maybe a 3rd. The steelers are hurting in different areas.

From a fantasy perspective , yes.


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