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I'm in a two-keeper league (non-PPR) where you give up the pick that corresponds with where your keeper(s) were drafted. So, for example, (because I was awkward with the description), I'll keep Ray Rice and give up my first round pick.

That leaves me with the choice of keeping Mathews and giving up my 4th or Brandon Marshal and giving up my fifth. Leaning toward keeping Mathews, but any thoughts?
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Stigmo wrote:I'm in a two-keeper league (non-PPR) where you give up the pick that corresponds with where your keeper(s) were drafted. So, for example, (because I was awkward with the description), I'll keep Ray Rice and give up my first round pick.

That leaves me with the choice of keeping Mathews and giving up my 4th or Brandon Marshal and giving up my fifth. Leaning toward keeping Mathews, but any thoughts?


I think Matthews for a fourth is a better value than Marshall for a fifth.
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endzoneview wrote:Mathews is motivated

"I'm just waiting to step my game up," Mathews, 24, said following a morning walkthrough. "Being able to have the guys around me and be in shape, it's like, man, it's time to go. It's time to get ready and, basically, to shut everyone up." via SDTribune


Reports in San Diego say Mathews is looking ripped and ready to go and is in much better overall shape than he has been in his career.


Yea I've heard nothing but rave reviews so far

Keeping my eye on him, gonna try and make it out to their training camp. Also keeping my eye on the WR mess, curious to see if Meachem can have a breakthrough season with his change in scenery.

Personally think if Malcolm Floyd can stay healthy he'll be a draft day steal
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Stigmo wrote:I'm in a two-keeper league (non-PPR) where you give up the pick that corresponds with where your keeper(s) were drafted. So, for example, (because I was awkward with the description), I'll keep Ray Rice and give up my first round pick.

That leaves me with the choice of keeping Mathews and giving up my 4th or Brandon Marshal and giving up my fifth. Leaning toward keeping Mathews, but any thoughts?


I think Matthews for a fourth is a better value than Marshall for a fifth.

This is really a no-brainer. Mathews is a 1st round pick you're getting for a 4th. Marshall is a 2nd-3rd round pick that costs a 5th. The better value is Mathews.

Depending where you're drafting and which players are returned, you just might be able to nab Marshall if you're slotted to draft near the tail.
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Elmagister wrote:
Stigmo wrote:I'm in a two-keeper league (non-PPR) where you give up the pick that corresponds with where your keeper(s) were drafted. So, for example, (because I was awkward with the description), I'll keep Ray Rice and give up my first round pick.

That leaves me with the choice of keeping Mathews and giving up my 4th or Brandon Marshal and giving up my fifth. Leaning toward keeping Mathews, but any thoughts?


I think Matthews for a fourth is a better value than Marshall for a fifth.

This is really a no-brainer. Mathews is a 1st round pick you're getting for a 4th. Marshall is a 2nd-3rd round pick that costs a 5th. The better value is Mathews.

Depending where you're drafting and which players are returned, you just might be able to nab Marshall if you're slotted to draft near the tail.


Yes, a top RB is always going to be the choice over a WR. Especially this year.
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Chargers player Mathews slightly injured in crash

SAN DIEGO — Chargers running back Ryan Mathews suffered minor injuries around midnight Monday when he was in a two-vehicle collision in the Sports Arena area.
Chargers running back #24 Ryan Mathews during the second quarter.
Ryan Mathews did not get the opportunity for full, team offseason workouts in 2011. JOHN GIBBINS • U-T

The 24-year-old NFL player was entering east Interstate 8 at Sports Arena Boulevard when he lost control of his 2010 BMW and hit another vehicle, California Highway Patrol Officer Mary Bailey said Tuesday.

He complained of pain and was taken to a hospital to be examined. It appears that Mathews was driving too fast, Bailey said.
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Coach Norv Turner suggested not only that Ronnie Brown will make the final roster, but that he will also have an occasional role out of the "Wildcat" offense.
"I know Ronnie Brown is going to make big plays because he has the ability to make the first tackler miss," said Turner, adding that Brown will make catches out of the backfield. Turner suggested the Chargers could run the Wildcat "four-five times" per game, which is awfully optimistic. The upshot here is that Brown is favorite to enter the season as Ryan Mathews' backup. We suspect he's washed up at age 30.
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Coach Norv Turner suggested not only that Ronnie Brown will make the final roster, but that he will also have an occasional role out of the "Wildcat" offense.
"I know Ronnie Brown is going to make big plays because he has the ability to make the first tackler miss," said Turner, adding that Brown will make catches out of the backfield. Turner suggested the Chargers could run the Wildcat "four-five times" per game, which is awfully optimistic. The upshot here is that Brown is favorite to enter the season as Ryan Mathews' backup. We suspect he's washed up at age 30.



shoot, Norv spreads more sh1t than carroll, either that or your paying more attention to the situation than most other situations.
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Any news on Gaither? The champ, where you at?
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endzoneview wrote:Any news on Gaither? The champ, where you at?


Norv claims he's only dealing with cramps, but he hasn't practiced since. When's the last time a guy was kept out longer than a day or two with only cramps? So suspicion is it's actually his back acting up again (and this is EXACTLY how it started in the 2010 season w/ "cramps"), but for now Norv adamantly refutes it and he's expected to be ready for the opener. They're gonna handle him w/ baby gloves, give the bench reps hoping he'll recover w/ the time off.

Gaither's been an absolute stud and it'll be devastating for our pass game if it turns out serious, but I'm taking Norv's word for it and assuming they're just being overly precautious... praying this doesn't turn out to be a McNeill story. I'm more concerned w/ the strong side for now. But it's getting real frustrating considering aside from Hardwick, everyone on this line is constantly injured

Edit: Reason I believe Norv is that the almost identical situation w/ the Ravens in 2010 was basically "cramps" --> back problems --> returned too soon --> aggravated; think they're just trying to learn from the past, give him plenty of time to avoid a setback; line is too dependent on him
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endzoneview wrote:Any news on Gaither? The champ, where you at?


Norv claims he's only dealing with cramps, but he hasn't practiced since. When's the last time a guy was kept out longer than a day or two with only cramps? So suspicion is it's actually his back acting up again (and this is EXACTLY how it started in the 2010 season w/ "cramps"), but for now Norv adamantly refutes it and he's expected to be ready for the opener. They're gonna handle him w/ baby gloves, give the bench reps hoping he'll recover w/ the time off.

Gaither's been an absolute stud and it'll be devastating for our pass game if it turns out serious, but I'm taking Norv's word for it and assuming they're just being overly precautious... praying this doesn't turn out to be a McNeill story. I'm more concerned w/ the strong side for now. But it's getting real frustrating considering aside from Hardwick, everyone on this line is constantly injured

Edit: Reason I believe Norv is that the almost identical situation w/ the Ravens in 2010 was basically "cramps" --> back problems --> returned too soon --> aggravated; think they're just trying to learn from the past, give him plenty of time to avoid a setback; line is too dependent on him


Maybe he's manstrating.
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Evan Silva took Mathews at 2 overall in an "expert mock"

By all means, if you're that confident in him, go get him. I just have a little issue with his reasoning

Rotoworld's Pick: Mathews. I think the top-four backs are bunched pretty tightly at the top, and the deck could be shuffled any which way. I would have taken Foster No. 1, but Mathews was my pick at 2 because I think his workload will be stronger than Rice and McCoy's, and I think the Chargers will lean on Mathews as a true bellcow runner in more of a ground-oriented offense than we've seen from San Diego in years past. The workload and talent on Mathews are elite. The fact that he has struggled with injuries his first two seasons doesn't really bother me. I think he's an extremely well conditioned athlete in 2012, and I expect him to stay healthy and get the rock a ton.


I know it shouldn't, but the fact that Silva loves him so much is really making me think twice about him. :-k
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pwbowen wrote:Maybe he's manstrating.


:lol: Seriously though, cramps??

"His back ailment is healing slower than the Chargers hoped, and he will miss Thursday’s preseason opener…Coach Norv Turner has expressed confidence in the team’s ability to prepare him for the season in relatively short order." -SI Tracker

Nothing new on this front, he's still day-to-day.

As for Silva, I don't know how he justifies Mathews over Ray Rice :-k
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pwbowen wrote:Maybe he's manstrating.


:lol: Seriously though, cramps??

"His back ailment is healing slower than the Chargers hoped, and he will miss Thursday’s preseason opener…Coach Norv Turner has expressed confidence in the team’s ability to prepare him for the season in relatively short order." -SI Tracker

Nothing new on this front, he's still day-to-day.

As for Silva, I don't know how he justifies Mathews over Ray Rice :-k


He just got you to mention him. Stupid pick is now justified.

Silva's tongue should grow to 10x normal size and choke himself to death.
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pwbowen wrote:
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pwbowen wrote:Maybe he's manstrating.


:lol: Seriously though, cramps??

"His back ailment is healing slower than the Chargers hoped, and he will miss Thursday’s preseason opener…Coach Norv Turner has expressed confidence in the team’s ability to prepare him for the season in relatively short order." -SI Tracker

Nothing new on this front, he's still day-to-day.

As for Silva, I don't know how he justifies Mathews over Ray Rice :-k


He just got you to mention him. Stupid pick is now justified.

Silva's tongue should grow to 10x normal size and choke himself to death.


Hey, don't hold back; tell us what you really think of this guy.
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