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I hate to engage in another argument so soon, so I'll just leave this here...

RBX ran for YYYY yards in 2011. (Fact)
RBX will run for YYYY yards in 2012. (Opinion)

Haha, there's never a scenario where IMO or "I think" is needed, it's just a habit for a lot of people. Almost everyone slips on occasion and does it.

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10 Team, .5 PPR
QB: Kaepernick,Romo,Big Ben
RB: Foster,TRich,Morris,D.Williams
WR: White,Alexander,Garcon,Stevie,Shorts,Bowe
TE: Graham

14 Team,PPR
QB: Freeman,Big Ben
RB: Forte,Spiller,Wilson,MJD
WR: Nicks,Cobb,Alexander,Jennings,Lloyd
TE: Myers

I am under the impression that Felix will be given 8-12 touches a game, I lean toward the higher end when you add in kick off returns, he's good at picking up the blitz and very good at pass catching, how much he takes away from Murray still remains to be seen, Murray has the potential to be something special but I have heard/seen the next "potential" Emmitt in Dallas x 3 in Julius Jones, Felix Jones and now Murray so I'm more skeptical than most Cowboy fans when it comes to Murray ( who I love) ....

Here's where it gets blurry: 'RBX will be the number 2 RB on the depth chart at the beginning of the season'. Now is that an opinion based on personal preference or a stronger statement of fact based on knowledge of the situation such as reading a report from the coach that intimated such, or perhaps it is the general consensus of most with an opinion on the subject? Using 'I think' or 'IMO' seems to underscore that it's a weaker statement based strictly on the leanings of the poster.... in my opinion.

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That much huh? I'll have to re-evaluate my gunning for Felix. I thought I might be able to handcuff Murray for cheaper if Tanner was the guy. Probably just wishful thinking.

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I see what you're getting at, but even in your example, that's obviously opinion. It's a future projection, not a statement of fact. If it was a statement of fact, it would either have to be a quote from the coach (in which case it's his opinion; obviously very valuable though) or reworded to "RBX is the number 2 RB on the depth chart."

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10 Team, .5 PPR
QB: Kaepernick,Romo,Big Ben
RB: Foster,TRich,Morris,D.Williams
WR: White,Alexander,Garcon,Stevie,Shorts,Bowe
TE: Graham

14 Team,PPR
QB: Freeman,Big Ben
RB: Forte,Spiller,Wilson,MJD
WR: Nicks,Cobb,Alexander,Jennings,Lloyd
TE: Myers

but isn't another player with upside basically another players handcuff. why not grab your own handcuff.

That's an interesting question.

I never used to bother with handcuffs. I figured I could get 3-4 legit starting NFL RBs.

With the advent of committees and fewer rushing attempts, I'm taking a closer look.

Here's a potential problem: it you really want your starter's handcuff, sometimes you have to reach for him. In doing so, you might be missing out on that 4th WR.

For example, in mocks, I'm targeting Felix as a handcuff at 9.11 or 10.2. I often get him there. Sometimes he goes in the 8th or early 9th.

So let's assume I would have to take him in the 8th to make sure I got him. First of all, that's 8.02, the 86th overall pick. Why would I take him there when I could a James Starks or Donald Brown or Peyton Hillis?

It's a tough call.

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12-tm PPR: QB-RB-3 WR-2 FLEX-TE-DEF

Week 16 Title Tilt (4th in 8 seasons)

Starters
Brady
CJ, Forte, DeMarco
Cobb, Stevie, Wallace
Witten
CIN

Bench
Kaepernick
Reggie, Reece, Quajizz, B. Pierce
Avery
Allen
NYG

IR
Harvin, DJones, Daniel T

The answer is it depends.

If you have Arian Foster, you absolutely grab Ben Tate. Because Ben Tate is also a 3-down back.

Felix Jones is not a 3-down back. He's Matt Forte lite. He can catch, he can be elusive at times, and he can pass-block. But he's useless in short-yardage and end-zone situations (he sucked in 2009 so in 2010 they had Marion Barber on goal line duty).

In that example Jason Garret might go with RBBC. My point is RBBC handcuff is less valuable than a different player that has upside.

Matt Forte is a 3-down back.

Everyone bags on Felix. I drafted him last year, so I was disappointed too.

But to say he's not a worthy handcuff is ridiculous (some poster here even IMOed that Tanner would be the handcuff).

Last year in the games Felix started (and including the game late in the season where DeMarco broke his ankle early), Felix averaged 12.7 ppg (PPR). It's not other-worldly, obviously, but if your starter misses a game or three, you could do a lot worse.

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12-tm PPR: QB-RB-3 WR-2 FLEX-TE-DEF

Week 16 Title Tilt (4th in 8 seasons)

Starters
Brady
CJ, Forte, DeMarco
Cobb, Stevie, Wallace
Witten
CIN

Bench
Kaepernick
Reggie, Reece, Quajizz, B. Pierce
Avery
Allen
NYG

IR
Harvin, DJones, Daniel T

it is a dilemma with all the Rbbc and injuries. I think in the 7th round Starks vs tate depends on if I have foster or not. rather get the definitive starter then a potential one. also if no solid 2nd rb then Starks is the better choice.

besides Tate and gerhart I don't feel any of the other handciffs are worth a reach.

Because we have a short bench, I don't normally draft for a handcuff. If the value is there, i.e. Felix, or any other available player, then I will becuase of the value. I agree with the above comment of drafting a starting RB, say Starks, over a handcuff.

If I do draft a "handcuff", Gerhart, its because the starter is having issues, AP, and is the clear starter, not RBBC, when AP is down. That doesn't seem to be the case for Felix, with all the talk about Tanner. You don't hear that with Gerhart.

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12 Team Standard PPR except QB get 5pts-TD,1pt-30yds
*-starter
QB: Vick*
RB: McCoy*; Charles*; Bradshaw; D. Martin*
WR: Cruz*; Julio*; Blackmon ; Cobb
TE: Pettigrew*
K: Janik*
DEF: Sea; Cin*
IDP: Dqwell*

I didn't mean to imply he's not a worthy handcuff. My implication is that his ceiling is many RB's floor. He hasn't scored more than 3TDs in his career. Heck, in 2010 he rushed 800 yards and only scored 1 TD.

Of course, he might be worth more in PPR leagues. My answer might be different in there.

That said, I'd rather draft a late-round starter with upside, like Kevin Smith or Donald Brown, than wasting a 9th-10th round pick handcuffing a limited guy like Felix Jones (because if you really want to handcuff, you have to pay a premium -- the handcuff "tax").


I know Matt Forte is a 3-down back. He wouldn't be a 1st/2nd round pick if he wasn't. "Matt Forte lite" meant he does everything Matt Forte does but without the power running for short-yardage / goal line.

OK, you make some good points there.

I too would rather have a starter than a handcuff. And I won't reach for a handcuff.

But if Felix is there at 9.11 or 10.02, I'll definitely grab him. There won't be a Brown or a Clerks or a Starks or even a Hillis or a Gerhart left at that point.

BTW, I only talk about PPR. It's all I've ever played. One of the reasons I left last year's sig down there.

I know standard leagues are supposedly still more popular, but for the life of me I can't understand why. The only plausible explanation is ignorance or tradition.

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12-tm PPR: QB-RB-3 WR-2 FLEX-TE-DEF

Week 16 Title Tilt (4th in 8 seasons)

Starters
Brady
CJ, Forte, DeMarco
Cobb, Stevie, Wallace
Witten
CIN

Bench
Kaepernick
Reggie, Reece, Quajizz, B. Pierce
Avery
Allen
NYG

IR
Harvin, DJones, Daniel T

For all you Beanie haters out there - Demarco Murray was on the bench till Jones got hurt

What does this have to do with Beanie?