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Could the NFL eliminate the extra point? Commissioner says it's possible


The extra point is the nonalcoholic beer of football: nobody asked for it in the first place; nobody has ever gone to a game for one; nobody really wants it around; but since it doesn't do much harm, it's hung around for decades now. NFL Total Access's Rich Eisen called the extra point the "penny" of the NFL, and that too seems pretty appropriate.

But the extra point's time may be nearing an end. (Nonalcoholic beer, alas, is a separate barnacle.) NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said on Monday that he could envision a time when the extra point no longer has a place in the NFL.

Goodell called the extra point "almost automatic," and he's not wrong. For 2013, kickers attempted 1,183 extra points. Know how many they missed? Five. No kicker missed more than one extra point in the entire season. That's a success rate of 99.6 percent for a part of the game nobody would miss anyway ... well, except for the kickers, and the networks and sponsors who get an extra commercial break wedged in there before the kickoff.

"Are there any plays in the game that really are not consequential?" Goodell said. "You want to add excitement with every play."

Under consideration: a new scoring system that would award seven points for a touchdown. However, if a team wishes, it can go for an eighth point ... with the caveat that if the attempt fails, the team actually loses a point and drops back to six points. It's basically the same system as now, with the presumption that an extra point would be made.

"You want to be careful [mandating a rules change]. Is that going to discourage people from going for two?" Goodell said, saying he wants to avoid "unintended consequences" of a hasty change.

Other possibilities not mentioned could be keeping the extra point but moving the kicking spot farther back, or offering more point values for farther-distance kicks, but that's starting to get into circus-game territory.

The Competition Committee meets in March, and this could be a topic of conversation, though any implementation is likely years away. Meantime, your thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue 01.21.2014, 05:17 
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Whats next.....painting the football red, white and blue like the old ABA?

It ain't broke.

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I'd support getting rid of it considering it really adds nothing to the game. I think it would be much more exciting to see teams have to run an extra play after the touchdown. The added layer of strategy that would necessitate would be interesting, too.


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PostPosted: Tue 01.21.2014, 08:47 
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He is correct that it is boring. I figure the way it lets them shoehorn extra Ads in makes it appealing to the NFL, but I tend to stop watching or change the channel.

It seems such a trivial change though that it doesn't seem worth it. If you want to make the game better look at the big stuff. Speed up the play clock for one.


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it would be interesting to see what and how many injuries occur on PAT's.. I agree with jesteva tho. It's not broke, but if it cut down on meaningless injuries for the sake of 1 point converted 99.6% of the time then go ahead. Hard to imagine any major injury happening on a PAT.

it really only gets interesting when there're snow flurries and piles of snow on the field like in the Det v Phil game.

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it would be interesting to see what and how many injuries occur on PAT's.. I agree with jesteva tho. It's not broke, but if it cut down on meaningless injuries for the sake of 1 point converted 99.6% of the time then go ahead. Hard to imagine any major injury happening on a PAT.

it really only gets interesting when there're snow flurries and piles of snow on the field like in the Det v Phil game.


Wasn't Gronk's arm broken last year blocking on a meaningless PAT?

The main change I think this brings is the teams that were going for two in the snow/wind (as mentioned above) or when a kicker got injured and they didn't have a better option.

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it would be interesting to see what and how many injuries occur on PAT's.. I agree with jesteva tho. It's not broke, but if it cut down on meaningless injuries for the sake of 1 point converted 99.6% of the time then go ahead. Hard to imagine any major injury happening on a PAT.

it really only gets interesting when there're snow flurries and piles of snow on the field like in the Det v Phil game.


Wasn't Gronk's arm broken last year blocking on a meaningless PAT?

The main change I think this brings is the teams that were going for two in the snow/wind (as mentioned above) or when a kicker got injured and they didn't have a better option.


I was just going to bring up Gronk breaking his arm.

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Other possibilities not mentioned could be keeping the extra point but moving the kicking spot farther back, or offering more point values for farther-distance kicks, but that's starting to get into circus-game territory.


I'd be surprised if the NFL did anything like that that placed additional game relevance / importance on kickers. Could be wrong but I think most coaches (not all) look at kickers as commodities and nothing more than a necessary evil that they have to deal with.

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I think it is a bad idea. The reason why the PAT is almost automatic is because of the skills kickers have developed over the years. Instead of eliminating a part of their role in a game, extend the distance for the PAT to the 30 yd line. If Goodell wants to improve the game, how about making penalties reviewable.


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I think if they really wanted to make it interesting, they would have whoever scored the touchdown try the extra point. If there is a three point play in basketball they don't bring in a specialist to kick the feild goal.

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I think if they really wanted to make it interesting, they would have whoever scored the touchdown try the extra point. If there is a three point play in basketball they don't bring in a specialist to kick the feild goal.

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I like the idea of moving the try back. I vote for making it a 40 yard attempt. Depending on your kicker, there would be alot more 2 point conversion tries as a result. I'd be ok with that.

As far as the other suggestions - I vote NO for more reviews and NO for speeding up the game clock.


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do what they do in rugby, you can kick it a close as you want or as far, but have to kick where you score it width wise of the field, with the exceotion that the ball cant be kicked within 10 yards from the sideline.


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