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PostPosted: Tue 08.02.2011, 13:19 
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I love these kind of discussions, and I want to say right off how impressed I am with Pat for going against the consensus thought that permeates the fantasy world.

To Rugger, PWBowen and anyone else who thinks him an idiot, you should take a good long look in the mirror to find who you speak of.

When I first broke into the industry, I did so because I got tired of listening to every pundit, expert and wannabe writer stick to last year's stats, extol last year's virtues, and put blinders on to statistical analysis blended with common sense. When Shawn Alexander had his big years, I cautioned against him, right here in the tank. When Marshal Faulk was touted as a top 5 rusher, I looked at his "cleanup procedure" and raised a warning flag. When Peyton Manning had his huge breakout in 2004 and was perceived as a top three pick, I told everyone to run away. In fact I was a finalist that year for the best fantasy football article for that warning article.

Each time I was derided by most in the tank as well as the industry. Each time I was right. At this point I won't tell you about all the times I was wrong; for this discussion it is irrelevant...not to mention somewhat painful :)

The point is, Mike Vick has been here before. He was the next coming of Superman, and he has let down fantasy owners on more than one occasion. There is an adage; what goes up, must come down. Take a hard look at fantasy statistics over the years. It's damn near impossible for most players to stay at the top year over year. It's black and white...plain as day...clear as the nose on your face...use any euphemism you like.

Thanks, Mr. White, for having a set of balls and the willingness to flop them up onto the table and challenge the herd mentality that pervades fantasy sports. I won't draft Vick this year on any team, unless I seem him hanging around in the third or fourth round. And I honestly don't expect to see him there.


Perhaps you should read the responses before you accuse me of calling him an idiot. I had no problem with the article and my derision was towards the arrogant poster who got the redazz over it. I have very little use for complaining unless you have a better solution.

My feelings on most of the articles written is that whether I agree with them or not I do applaud someone for taking the time to put it out there and the guts to do so. Except Pachy. He sucks and I suspect it's intentionally bad just to get attention.

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PostPosted: Tue 08.02.2011, 14:17 
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Ben_Ice wrote:
I love these kind of discussions, and I want to say right off how impressed I am with Pat for going against the consensus thought that permeates the fantasy world.

To Rugger, PWBowen and anyone else who thinks him an idiot, you should take a good long look in the mirror to find who you speak of.

When I first broke into the industry, I did so because I got tired of listening to every pundit, expert and wannabe writer stick to last year's stats, extol last year's virtues, and put blinders on to statistical analysis blended with common sense. When Shawn Alexander had his big years, I cautioned against him, right here in the tank. When Marshal Faulk was touted as a top 5 rusher, I looked at his "cleanup procedure" and raised a warning flag. When Peyton Manning had his huge breakout in 2004 and was perceived as a top three pick, I told everyone to run away. In fact I was a finalist that year for the best fantasy football article for that warning article.

Each time I was derided by most in the tank as well as the industry. Each time I was right. At this point I won't tell you about all the times I was wrong; for this discussion it is irrelevant...not to mention somewhat painful :)

The point is, Mike Vick has been here before. He was the next coming of Superman, and he has let down fantasy owners on more than one occasion. There is an adage; what goes up, must come down. Take a hard look at fantasy statistics over the years. It's damn near impossible for most players to stay at the top year over year. It's black and white...plain as day...clear as the nose on your face...use any euphemism you like.

Thanks, Mr. White, for having a set of balls and the willingness to flop them up onto the table and challenge the herd mentality that pervades fantasy sports. I won't draft Vick this year on any team, unless I seem him hanging around in the third or fourth round. And I honestly don't expect to see him there.



easy there viper, easy. bowen and I comments were directed at the op.


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PostPosted: Tue 08.02.2011, 14:34 
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Rugger, PWBowen...my apologies

That's what happens when righteous indignation is coupled with blurred vision...don't remember now if it was from laughing, crying or drinking. Kinda like the Tea Party I suppose.

Makes sense that the sharks who've been around for a bit would have a broader perspective. I think the invective was really directed at the uninformed few who supported the author's original theme that Vick is a super-deity not to be questioned, that he hath returned to walk on water and anoint the believers with fantasy godliness and virtue.

We all know what a crock that is. Second chances are cool...but as a former coach once said...

"They are who we thought they were."

Hopefully the context isn't the same.

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Ben_Ice wrote:
Rugger, PWBowen...my apologies

That's what happens when righteous indignation is coupled with blurred vision...don't remember now if it was from laughing, crying or drinking. Kinda like the Tea Party I suppose.

Makes sense that the sharks who've been around for a bit would have a broader perspective. I think the invective was really directed at the uninformed few who supported the author's original theme that Vick is a super-deity not to be questioned, that he hath returned to walk on water and anoint the believers with fantasy godliness and virtue.

We all know what a crock that is. Second chances are cool...but as a former coach once said...

"They are who we thought they were."

Hopefully the context isn't the same.


It was a nice sermon though. :wink:

Don't let the chum get ya down! :thumbright:

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Ben_Ice wrote:
Rugger, PWBowen...my apologies

That's what happens when righteous indignation is coupled with blurred vision...don't remember now if it was from laughing, crying or drinking. Kinda like the Tea Party I suppose.

Makes sense that the sharks who've been around for a bit would have a broader perspective. I think the invective was really directed at the uninformed few who supported the author's original theme that Vick is a super-deity not to be questioned, that he hath returned to walk on water and anoint the believers with fantasy godliness and virtue.

We all know what a crock that is. Second chances are cool...but as a former coach once said...

"They are who we thought they were."

Hopefully the context isn't the same.



My whole day has been ruined, I was going to take the kids to the pool just now, but its all ruined

kind of figured you might have not really read them, no biggie.


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rugger48 wrote:
Ben_Ice wrote:
Rugger, PWBowen...my apologies

That's what happens when righteous indignation is coupled with blurred vision...don't remember now if it was from laughing, crying or drinking. Kinda like the Tea Party I suppose.

Makes sense that the sharks who've been around for a bit would have a broader perspective. I think the invective was really directed at the uninformed few who supported the author's original theme that Vick is a super-deity not to be questioned, that he hath returned to walk on water and anoint the believers with fantasy godliness and virtue.

We all know what a crock that is. Second chances are cool...but as a former coach once said...

"They are who we thought they were."

Hopefully the context isn't the same.



My whole day has been ruined, I was going to take the kids to the pool just now, but its all ruined

kind of figured you might have really read them, no biggie.


Got you so agitated that you're all blocked up? Ouch. :pottytrain4:

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PostPosted: Mon 04.09.2012, 10:24 
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jason93racer wrote:
Patrick White has Mike Vick as the 6th best QB naxt year?

Patrick you should be banned from Fantasy Sharks Website..Vick at 6th in 2011??? Proposterous.. He has top 5 season stats right now, with 2 games left, He missed 4.5 games through injury and QB rotation in Philly, He has his entire offense coming back in 2011.

He has proven he can excel against tough defenses and destroy the weaker ones...

Its clearly a toss up for the number 1 QB between Brady and Vick, I give the nod to Vick because Bradys young team is too much to gamble on.

Do some homework before you spout off your nonsense next time.. [-X



CBS Sports list of top QBs from 2011

Quarterbacks 2011 Standard Stats
Passing Rushing Receiving Misc
Player Att Cmp Yd TD INT Rate Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL FPTS
Aaron Rodgers, GB 502 343 4643 45 6 122.5 60 257 4.3 3 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 486
Drew Brees, NO 657 468 5476 46 14 110.6 21 86 4.1 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 1 483
Tom Brady, NE 611 401 5235 39 12 105.6 43 109 2.5 3 0 0 0 0.0 0 2 443
Matthew Stafford, DET 663 421 5038 41 16 97.2 22 78 3.5 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 1 424
Cam Newton, CAR 517 310 4051 21 17 84.5 126 706 5.6 14 1 1 27 27.0 0 2 410
Eli Manning, NYG 589 359 4933 29 16 92.9 35 15 0.4 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 4 338
Tony Romo, DAL 522 346 4184 31 10 102.5 22 46 2.1 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 3 337
Matt Ryan, ATL 566 347 4177 29 12 92.2 37 84 2.3 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 3 331
Philip Rivers, SD 582 366 4624 27 20 88.7 26 36 1.4 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 5 307
Mark Sanchez, NYJ 543 308 3474 26 18 78.2 37 103 2.8 6 0 0 0 0.0 0 8 288
Ryan Fitzpatrick, BUF 569 353 3832 24 23 79.1 56 215 3.8 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 2 270
Michael Vick, PHI 423 253 3303 18 14 84.9 76 589 7.8 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 4 268

Vick finished 12th....pretty far cry from 1st. Good call Jason93racer


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^ interesting bump

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