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Kelly is reportedly the new HC at ND.

Do you think he is the answer?

Personally I think he is a great coach, but I think the main problem with ND is the local talent sucks and young kids natioanlly dont really care as much about "tradition", that really only works on the local kids.

I think he is a HUGE upgrade over Weiss, but thats not saying much either. It will take him 2-3 years, but he will probably have them as a perennial 9-3 type team that takes advantange of a TERRIBLE SOS.

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Sounds about right. He'll make them decent and they'll be slobbered over too much and get their head beaten in at the end of most years.

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Will Kelly make ND relevant again?


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Agree...he's an upgrade over Weiss but that's not saying much.

After watching his performance at the end of the first half in the Pitt game when he threw his kicker under the bus on national TV for missing a 55 yard field goal into the wind into the open end at Heinz Field, I lost any respect I had for the guy.

If your true character is revealed in times of adversity, his performance at the end of that first half spoke volumes to me about what he is all about.

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I just watched some of the press conference on TV in my office here..

My impression - if this doesn't work out for him his future is going be a southern baptist preacher or politician :lol:


the ubber drool this guy is spitting about ND is disgusting..

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Reminds me a lot of Dennis Franchione. Skips from minor school to minor school, finally gets a few big wins, fools a big-time school into hiring him.

Fail.

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Reminds me a lot of Dennis Franchione. Skips from minor school to minor school, finally gets a few big wins, fools a big-time school into hiring him.

Fail.


Yep, for every Urban Meyer, there are 10 Dan Hawkins.

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just heard an excerpt I missed earlier..

"you don't win games with X's and O's ... you win by working on it. You win by working on it."

what?..

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Barry Alvarez started a hard push again back in March with Notre Dame to get a series of games with Wiscosnin. As a former assistant to Lou Holtz at ND I'm curious to find out how all his trips and meetings at South Bend went and how the new hire might affect it and if theres a relationship there at all with Kelly to build on.

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Assuming the fans in the stands aren't upside down standing on their heads, the problems at Notre Dame go far beyond the football coach....


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Assuming the fans in the stands aren't upside down standing on their heads, the problems at Notre Dame go far beyond the football coach....


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Nice .. :lol:

Kelly was so gung ho about the institutions academics

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Personally, I would never send a kid of mine to play for a guy who bailed on his team right before the biggest game of their lives. He had a responsibility to the kids at Cincinnati.

Makes me a little sick...

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no. It's over for Shame. Noone wants to play for some independent team in the middle of nowhere.

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und2006 wrote:
Personally, I would never send a kid of mine to play for a guy who bailed on his team right before the biggest game of their lives. He had a responsibility to the kids at Cincinnati.

Makes me a little sick...


What if realistically this is the only time the window's open to take the job?

Besides, college football became big business a long time ago. These aren't young, doe-eyed innocents making up his football team. A lot of them treated colleges much worse during the recruiting process, committing, decommitting and so on.

The players do have a right to be upset that they were probably lied to, but they're not really kids anymore.

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pwbowen wrote:
und2006 wrote:
Personally, I would never send a kid of mine to play for a guy who bailed on his team right before the biggest game of their lives. He had a responsibility to the kids at Cincinnati.

Makes me a little sick...


What if realistically this is the only time the window's open to take the job?

Besides, college football became big business a long time ago. These aren't young, doe-eyed innocents making up his football team. A lot of them treated colleges much worse during the recruiting process, committing, decommitting and so on.

The players do have a right to be upset that they were probably lied to, but they're not really kids anymore.

+1

I think the blame needs to be put on the shoulders of NCAA, and ND as well.

In the NFL what would happen to a team if they were interviewing a coach and trying to steal him away during the playoffs? They would fine the coach, and the organization. In college its become the norm, but it really only screws the little guys so the NCAA has proven they dont care.

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