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In other new the WWE Channel is addicting. Might actually get me back into wrestling.

I watched Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle, HHH, Rikishi, & The Undertaker battle it out @ Armageddon, Hell In A Cell. What a friging match!

Followed that up with some Trish Stratus v Stephanie McMahon @ some PPV. I'm still in love with Stephanie.
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Im certainly no fan of Cena's but last night promo from him was one of the best Ive seen him do in a long long time,I really wish he could be more serious more often .

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Kaleb.09 wrote:Im certainly no fan of Cena's but last night promo from him was one of the best Ive seen him do in a long long time,I really wish he could be more serious more often .



WOW! The Rock is going to rip him apart. Nice cut by Cena but he just opened up a can of worms he wants no part of. I'm inclined to believe he actually does believe a little bit of what he is saying there. That's why it comes across well. Still not a fan of the angle Cena always takes that "The Rock left or bailed on wrestling." Not sure if he came up with that or the guys behind the curtain want him to push that angle. It just doesn't make much sense to me. Paid millions of dollars to make movies or paid millions of dollars to grind your bones down night in and night out with a ridiculously draining travel schedule. Easy choice.

If Cena does beat The Rock at Wrestlemania I'll be extremely pissed, especially after The Rock carries Cena's rump around the ring being a far superior wrestler. People seem to forget too that Rocky got it as bad as Cena. He was on the end of numerous Rocky Sucks chants throughout his career.
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Kaleb.09 wrote:Im certainly no fan of Cena's but last night promo from him was one of the best Ive seen him do in a long long time,I really wish he could be more serious more often .



WOW! The Rock is going to rip him apart. Nice cut by Cena but he just opened up a can of worms he wants no part of. I'm inclined to believe he actually does believe a little bit of what he is saying there. That's why it comes across well. Still not a fan of the angle Cena always takes that "The Rock left or bailed on wrestling." Not sure if he came up with that or the guys behind the curtain want him to push that angle. It just doesn't make much sense to me. Paid millions of dollars to make movies or paid millions of dollars to grind your bones down night in and night out with a ridiculously draining travel schedule. Easy choice.

If Cena does beat The Rock at Wrestlemania I'll be extremely pissed, especially after The Rock carries Cena's rump around the ring being a far superior wrestler. People seem to forget too that Rocky got it as bad as Cena. He was on the end of numerous Rocky Sucks chants throughout his career.

aparently a lot of guys feel that way backstage, I know Orton and Punk have said some unfavourable things about The Rock.

An anonymous WWE wrestler text PWInsider.com true non-scripted thoughts on The Rock/John Cena feud under the condition of anonymity.


"[The Rock] comes in to use WWE to get back the audience he lost doing Disney movies, which is fine but he's been back over a year and name one person he helped make a bigger star since then? No one.

"He's here for himself, he keeps to himself, and he keeps someone who's actually touring here all year from making a bigger payday at the bigger shows. It's all about making this the "biggest" Mania of all time. OK, then what do we do the rest of the year? Who's been made? You think he took ANY blame for Survivor [Series] not drawing? Of course not, but how do you feud with a guy on the Titantron? Cena nailed the guy dead on tonight.

"Say anything about HHH, Taker, etc. still being in the top spot but if they were needed to work the road, they would and they would still work their rumps off as much as they needed to. Rock is out for Rock and the idea he's here to better anything but his own wallet is the biggest work of 2012."

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^ I do think also that some of it is jealously. The Rock was part of one of the more golden eras of wrestling, he put in his work, it wasn't just handed to him on a silver platter. His father made sure of that. He never lost his audience, all you have to do is watch the fans reaction every time he steps into the ring or grabs the mic. Wasn't known as the most electrifying man in sports entertainment for nothing. It shouldn't be The Rock's job to make anyone better, it should be the wrestlers jobs to feed off of his greatness. The same way Stone Cold and the Rock fed off of each other all those years.

I'm not saying the Rock isn't there for himself. I know he isn't there to remain permanent and I know for a damn fact he doesn't want to shoulder the entire load of the company which is what he would be asked to do if he made a commitment to come back. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Rock didn't come crawling back to the WWE, the WWE came to the Rock. If anything that should want to make everyone on the roster get better because it's basically saying this talent pool is so weak, we have to bring back a great from a past era just to garner enough interest because simply put this is not a golden era for wrestling. It's extremely weak. Hell if CM Punk never got the push he did the WWE would be lost.

The tone coming across is that some wrestlers feel like the Rock owes something to wrestling. He doesn't. He gave so much to the sport. He's one of the greats. He paved a nice little road along with some other former greats and these guys who have came along have done nothing but frig it up. Doesn't all fall on the wrestlers though, falls on the writers and the guys behind the scenes too. Also when they decided to PG wrestling down it was an awful mistake.
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ATL Souljah Boy wrote:^ I do think also that some of it is jealously. The Rock was part of one of the more golden eras of wrestling, he put in his work, it wasn't just handed to him on a silver platter. His father made sure of that. He never lost his audience, all you have to do is watch the fans reaction every time he steps into the ring or grabs the mic. Wasn't known as the most electrifying man in sports entertainment for nothing. It shouldn't be The Rock's job to make anyone better, it should be the wrestlers jobs to feed off of his greatness. The same way Stone Cold and the Rock fed off of each other all those years.

I'm not saying the Rock isn't there for himself. I know he isn't there to remain permanent and I know for a damn fact he doesn't want to shoulder the entire load of the company which is what he would be asked to do if he made a commitment to come back. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure the Rock didn't come crawling back to the WWE, the WWE came to the Rock. If anything that should want to make everyone on the roster get better because it's basically saying this talent pool is so weak, we have to bring back a great from a past era just to garner enough interest because simply put this is not a golden era for wrestling. It's extremely weak. Hell if CM Punk never got the push he did the WWE would be lost.

The tone coming across is that some wrestlers feel like the Rock owes something to wrestling. He doesn't. He gave so much to the sport. He's one of the greats. He paved a nice little road along with some other former greats and these guys who have came along have done nothing but frig it up. Doesn't all fall on the wrestlers though, falls on the writers and the guys behind the scenes too. Also when they decided to PG wrestling down it was an awful mistake.

this guy basically nails it



some of them just cant seem to understand that the wwe has become an entertainment first and a wrestling company second.
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Yea he definitely hit the nail on the head there.
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And in typical Rock fashion he completely owned Cena tonight punching holes in everything he said last week (and he wasn't even on his A game) The only time Cena got the Rock were "the wrist notes" which were obvious kayfabe. I cannot believe the Rock agreed to what they call in the business "a work" to finally give Cena some kind of victory in their exchanges. Especially something of that nature. The Rock using notes on his wrist. :lol: I just hope people don't start believing that, but some are from what I'm reading. Amateur wrestling fans. Of course it makes some sense, they had to throw John a bone to try and let him win one of these exchanges with The Rock because he just isn't on his level in any shape or form. I will say though that it's been quite some time since I've seen a feud or series of events that did make you question what was real and what was fake. That's what great wrestling entertainment is all about.

I do fear the WWE is going to play that tired and boring "passing of the torch" angle at Wrestlemania. Cena wins, Rock shakes his hand, close curtain. YAWN!!!

And this article basically proves everything I said. It's pretty bad when your franchise wrestler has to be thrown bones like that. Just proves he shouldn't be carrying the load on any level.

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2012/2/22/ ... estlemania
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JBL Comments on The Rock's Backstage Heat and Chris Jericho Returning

Posted by Marc Middleton on 02/28/2012
- Former WWE Champion JBL took to his Facebook page this morning and commented on recent reports about The Rock and Chris Jericho returning.

Heat on The Rock:

"I hear the resentment/jealousy of the Rock backstage and I quite frankly don't believe it. Four of the world's biggest superstars in Cena, Rock, Undertaker and Triple H will headline WM-this is huge for WWE and the business-guys should be dying to be on this card and my guess is they are. It's very simple to those who do have any problem with it, if there is anyone truly that does-replace them and there won't be a spot for them. Until then just say 'thanks!'"

Chris Jericho:
"There is a reason why Jericho and others can always come back-they earned that right and they still draw. Shawn Michaels does as well. CM Punk and John Cena earned the right to be on top. If these guys ever quit drawing then they know it's time to hang it up-that hasn't happened yet, and I hope it won't. Piper and Diesel ares guys who still draw interest and create buzz. Shows how great these guys are that they still create interest-it's Darwinian, once they stop or are replaced then you won't see them anymore. Batista would draw if he decides to return."

- There was high praise for CM Punk and Chris Jericho after their segment on last night's RAW Supershow. Here are some comments:

Jim Ross: "It's going to be hard for anyone to follow the pure wrestling match that @CMPunk & @IAmJericho will have at WM28 Trust me on that"

Bret Hart: "That was probably the best promo I've seen in months & I'm not saying that bc of the shoutout. Punk & Jericho were on the top of their game"

Meanwhile, Chris Jericho commented:

"And THAT is how you prove a point.... @CMPunk #raw"
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Cena/Rock means nothing to me. Rock is there to do above-average promos to not bury Cena and will put him over at WM. Cena's character is completely stale. Hopefully a heel turn for Cena given how over Punk is as a face.

Punk/Jericho looks like absolute gold after their promo last night. Punk still seems slightly awkward as a pure face, but he got a little edge going with Jericho half way through. Love it. #1 match at WM for me, easily.
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zodiak wrote:Cena/Rock means nothing to me. Rock is there to do above-average promos to not bury Cena and will put him over at WM. Cena's character is completely stale. Hopefully a heel turn for Cena given how over Punk is as a face.

Punk/Jericho looks like absolute gold after their promo last night. Punk still seems slightly awkward as a pure face, but he got a little edge going with Jericho half way through. Love it. #1 match at WM for me, easily.


Cena said he would never ever turn heel. I think he'd raise hell if the guys in the WWE FO forced him to do that. He'd be better off for it though. Everyone but little kids hate you man, embrace the heel.

I missed the Punk/Jericho cut because of the race but just caught it on youtube. Yea they brought the goods. They'll put on a good match too. Jericho's probably one of the more underrated guys of all time. He gets love but not enough. Haven't ordered a Wrestlemania since hell too long ago. Might have to buck up the $, or find a stream.
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ATL Souljah Boy wrote:
zodiak wrote:Cena/Rock means nothing to me. Rock is there to do above-average promos to not bury Cena and will put him over at WM. Cena's character is completely stale. Hopefully a heel turn for Cena given how over Punk is as a face.

Punk/Jericho looks like absolute gold after their promo last night. Punk still seems slightly awkward as a pure face, but he got a little edge going with Jericho half way through. Love it. #1 match at WM for me, easily.


Cena said he would never ever turn heel. I think he'd raise hell if the guys in the WWE FO forced him to do that. He'd be better off for it though. Everyone but little kids hate you man, embrace the heel.

I missed the Punk/Jericho cut because of the race but just caught it on youtube. Yea they brought the goods. They'll put on a good match too. Jericho's probably one of the more underrated guys of all time. He gets love but not enough. Haven't ordered a Wrestlemania since hell too long ago. Might have to buck up the $, or find a stream.

The Punk/Jericho segment was gold, proberbly the best segment (imo) and I just like Zodiak am most looking forward to this match out of all the other matches.


One thing I noticed during the Rock /Cena segment is how bad the Rock looked after Cena left, The Rock is one of the greatest talkers but he kept on flubbing his words and repeating himself,I have to wonder if Cena calling him out on reading his line (off his wrist) got to him, as soon as he mentioned that The Rock stopped pacing up and down and looked pissed off.



watch from 20.50 , Rock doesnt seem like he is comfortable
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^ No it was apparent, but the Rock was just putting on a show. He had to looked rattled and vulnerable, only way for Cena to get any sort of support. He's putting Cena over the same way Hogan did it for the Rock when they wrestled at Wrestlemania, which makes all these negative comments about the Rock even more puzzling. It's going to be a "ROCKY, ROCKY" fest come Wrestlemania. Watch the whole video, the Rock never looks at the notes once. Obvious plant. Tough time believing an actor who has to remember numerous lines needed notes. WWE accomplished what they set out to do though with that simple plant, everyone is talking about it. The buzz is at an all time high.

I also didn't like how Cena left the ring after cutting his promo. It didn't make sense. You didn't see Jericho cut his promo and then just walk out of the ring with Punk. It didn't really make sense for Cena to leave and for the Rock to keep talking. The order of events just seemed off and didn't flow that well. At that point if you wanted to put Cena over the Rock and attempt to build him up go with the whole quick fight in the ring angle with Cena hitting his finisher and then leaving to his music. The Rock didn't need to talk anymore after Cena talked, that's my only gripe.

Oh and the Rock cut this after Raw went off air:



5:05 on is a really cool moment. He'll remember that for the rest of his life.
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The verbal battle between The Rock and John Cena on Monday's RAW Supershow from Portland was designed for Cena to get the upper-hand this time around. This was achieved by having Cena point out that Rock had notes for his promo written on his wrist. Some in WWE claim that Cena pointing this out was unscripted.

WWE officials are determined to get a 50/50 reaction for both men at WrestleMania 28 in Miami.




That whole segment seemed off the cuff Cena leaving abruptly seemed odd and almost heelish in a way,anyway good luck wwe trying to get a 50/50 reaction for both men, thats like trying to get Bret/Jericho boo'd in canada or Punk boo'd in Chicago.
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Kaleb.09 wrote:
The verbal battle between The Rock and John Cena on Monday's RAW Supershow from Portland was designed for Cena to get the upper-hand this time around. This was achieved by having Cena point out that Rock had notes for his promo written on his wrist. Some in WWE claim that Cena pointing this out was unscripted.

WWE officials are determined to get a 50/50 reaction for both men at WrestleMania 28 in Miami.




That whole segment seemed off the cuff Cena leaving abruptly seemed odd and almost heelish in a way

His whole attitude post-Kane feud seems "tweener" and/or edgy-face. And I agree, there is zero point zero percent chance Rock gets booed at WM, heel or not. You can't turn attitude era legends heel when the attitude era's faces WERE heels.

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