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JP needs to get fired for fuggin this up.
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I HATE THIS TEAM!!!

I HATE THIS TEAM!!!

I am officially a Padres fan...

Seriously? JP: "YOU ARE NOT GOING TO COMPETE NEXT YEAR!!!"

UGHHHHHHH
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If JP is not fired before the new year I am looking for a new team to cheer for in 2010.
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dznutz88 wrote:If JP is not fired before the new year I am looking for a new team to cheer for in 2010.


It doesn't even matter DZ,

We missed the chance to get any elite prospects for these guys. EVERYONE who had any value should have been traded at this deadline. Except for: Lind, Hill, Romero, Snider and a couple other pitchers. Our farm system is pathetic and our big league team is not on the same caliber as the other big dogs we play with. We can't compete unless we have a BUNCH of prospects who hit their stride at the right time (ala Tampa).

We're done, it's over... we'll never compete again.
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TaZZ wrote:I am officially a Padres fan...


Not that the Pads are much better :lol:
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I am really looking forward to the 6 page thread next year titled : "Where will Roy "Doc" Halladay end up?...2010 version!"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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honingskills wrote:I am really looking forward to the 6 page thread next year titled : "Where will Roy "Doc" Halladay end up?...2010 version!"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
no, the jays can kiss my arse!!!
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So what will happen to Roy now that he hasn't been moved?
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Halladay refused a deal to Texas?

“RoyThe Texas Rangers thought they were pretty close to a deal with the Toronto Blue Jays for ace Roy Halladay(notes) last Thursday, less than 24 hours before the trading deadline.

But The Toronto Star is reporting that Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi told the folks in Texas that Halladay wasn't going to waive his no-trade clause to go play for them no matter what kind of deal they put together. Halladay hasn't talked to the media since the trading deadline passed on Friday afternoon. It isn't clear whether he's just peeved that he didn't get dealt away from Toronto or if Halladay doesn't want to possibly spill the beans about what went down in negotiations with the Rangers and other teams. After all, the Sun points out that Halladay is a terrible liar.

Perhaps everybody can take another crack at it this off-season when Halladay rumors will rise again and continue rising till the trading deadline next year - as long as Halladay continues to perform.

Source: Toronto Star
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TaZZ wrote:I am officially a Padres fan...


Not that the Pads are much better :lol:


I don't even care...

I'm still steaming from this crap...
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I didn't know it was Riccardi's fault most of the pitching staff after Halladay is hurt. It's amazing how well the starting rotation is doing considering as of last season most of these guys were supposed to be counted on as anything more than spot starters.
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OarChambo wrote:I didn't know it was Riccardi's fault most of the pitching staff after Halladay is hurt. It's amazing how well the starting rotation is doing considering as of last season most of these guys were supposed to be counted on as anything more than spot starters.


Surely you're not saying Riccardi still deserves to be employed after almost a decade of uncompetitive baseball, despite having a 100 million dollar budget for a couple of years.

It's Riccardi's fault that this team has no direction. One year they are spending big money on guys like Frank Thomas, Troy Glaus, Rolen trying to win now. The next year, we're listening to offers on our 32 year old ace for a boatload of prospects. Then, a week later, we're expecting to compete next season after keeping our ace but trading our solid 3B for a couple prospects.

wth?!?!?!?! wth?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This organization is a complete cluster"mess". Our mlb team is below average and our prospects are below average. Nobody wants to choose a direction and stick with it. Nobody wants to make the important decisions (trading an ace, firing Riccardi).
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OarChambo wrote:I didn't know it was Riccardi's fault most of the pitching staff after Halladay is hurt. It's amazing how well the starting rotation is doing considering as of last season most of these guys were supposed to be counted on as anything more than spot starters.


Surely you're not saying Riccardi still deserves to be employed after almost a decade of uncompetitive baseball, despite having a 100 million dollar budget for a couple of years.

It's Riccardi's fault that this team has no direction. One year they are spending big money on guys like Frank Thomas, Troy Glaus, Rolen trying to win now. The next year, we're listening to offers on our 32 year old ace for a boatload of prospects. Then, a week later, we're expecting to compete next season after keeping our ace but trading our solid 3B for a couple prospects.

wth?!?!?!?! wth?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This organization is a complete cluster"mess". Our mlb team is below average and our prospects are below average. Nobody wants to choose a direction and stick with it. Nobody wants to make the important decisions (trading an ace, firing Riccardi).
Not defending Riccardi's past mistakes...he's had a ton of them and imo deserves to be shown the door. I just don't get why this was the straw that broke the camel's back with some of you...not just here, other boards too. There are certain limitations teams like Toronto have to deal with and having your (as of sometime in 2008) 2, 3, and 4 pitcher out for all of 2009 is not something most teams like Toronto can come back from. I think they've done pretty well considering. To justify dealing Roy they should demand a top return, which Riccardi did, no one offered so they stood pat...correctly imo. If you had gotten similar to what Cleveland got for Cliff Lee you and every other Jays homer would be screaming 'rape' like most Cleveland fans have done...and that's about what Toronto was being offered.
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OarChambo wrote:
TaZZ wrote:
OarChambo wrote:I didn't know it was Riccardi's fault most of the pitching staff after Halladay is hurt. It's amazing how well the starting rotation is doing considering as of last season most of these guys were supposed to be counted on as anything more than spot starters.


Surely you're not saying Riccardi still deserves to be employed after almost a decade of uncompetitive baseball, despite having a 100 million dollar budget for a couple of years.

It's Riccardi's fault that this team has no direction. One year they are spending big money on guys like Frank Thomas, Troy Glaus, Rolen trying to win now. The next year, we're listening to offers on our 32 year old ace for a boatload of prospects. Then, a week later, we're expecting to compete next season after keeping our ace but trading our solid 3B for a couple prospects.

wth?!?!?!?! wth?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This organization is a complete cluster"mess". Our mlb team is below average and our prospects are below average. Nobody wants to choose a direction and stick with it. Nobody wants to make the important decisions (trading an ace, firing Riccardi).
Not defending Riccardi's past mistakes...he's had a ton of them and imo deserves to be shown the door. I just don't get why this was the straw that broke the camel's back with some of you...not just here, other boards too. There are certain limitations teams like Toronto have to deal with and having your (as of sometime in 2008) 2, 3, and 4 pitcher out for all of 2009 is not something most teams like Toronto can come back from. I think they've done pretty well considering. To justify dealing Roy they should demand a top return, which Riccardi did, no one offered so they stood pat...correctly imo. If you had gotten similar to what Cleveland got for Cliff Lee you and every other Jays homer would be screaming 'rape' like most Cleveland fans have done...and that's about what Toronto was being offered.


I agree, he wasn't getting the value. I'm more pissed that this team has no direction. Now, Rios is gone, so:

- We keep Halladay because we're not getting value.
- JP says, we're going to compete next season.
- Trade Scott Rolen for an error prone and streaky at best 3B and 2 young arms. The best scenario replacement next year is Chone Figgins as a free agent, this is a downgrade and will likely cost us the same.
- Dump Alex Rios for NOTHING. The best scenario is we sign a guy like Abreu or Dye to play RF. Still a downgrade, but would save us money.

So, we're expected to compete next season, but now we have potentially HUGE holes at SS (I doubt we'll offer Scutero the money he'll want, we'll take the 2 first rounders), 3B, RF and a HUGE Vernon Wells contract messing with our financial flexibility. Doesn't sound like a move forward to me, so what's it gonna be JP?

I'd offer JP the benefit of the doubt, but he's done nothing to deserve that.
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