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Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


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kbookert wrote:
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Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


I think it's that he doesn't want to be stuck in rebuilding. He wants to compete for a title.


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kbookert wrote:
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Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


I just think guys like Manning, Favre, et al, are too driven by winning, and their own game, to be somebodies mentor. Nothing wrong with that.


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kbookert wrote:
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Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


Weird, I thought the Colts cut Manning, I didn't realize he had bailed on them.

If you're gonna try to pat yourself on the back, at least be sorta right. Jeez.

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kbookert wrote:
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Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


The theory works well except for all the guys that got fired. What your saying is Jim Irsay is a genius. I for one will contest that.

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kbookert wrote:
kbookert wrote:
Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


HUH??

Dude..that is one crazy viewpoint..he was let go man. He had a very emotional exit speech.

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kbookert wrote:
kbookert wrote:
Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


HUH??

Dude..that is one crazy viewpoint..he was let go man. He had a very emotional exit speech.


Give the guy a break ... He has bigger and more fundamental things to address, id say ;)

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kbookert wrote:
kbookert wrote:
Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


I just think guys like Manning, Favre, et al, are too driven by ego and over-inflation of self, to be somebodies mentor. Plenty wrong with that.


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Fighting Amish wrote:
kbookert wrote:
kbookert wrote:
Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


HUH??

Dude..that is one crazy viewpoint..he was let go man. He had a very emotional exit speech.


Give the guy a break ... He has bigger and more fundamental things to address, id say ;)

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He needs our support, brother sharks :)


I noticed that..he's for all teams in NY/NJ/Bronk/Queens..its all good 8)

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kbookert wrote:
kbookert wrote:
Didnt the Colts pay Manning a lot of money to sit out this year?

Before you gasp and get all red in the face or laugh it off as crazy talk. How is this for a plan? The Colts are a smart team. They knew Manning had the surgery and figured they could use that as an excuse. Pay him a lot of money to keep his mouth shut, let him sit out, Suck for Luck, then stash him on the bench and let him learn for 3 or 4 years then start where Manning leaves off.

Investing in the future? Hmmmm :-k




Hmmmmmmmm, well I was partly right. Who knew Manning had to big an ego to have someone waiting in the wings for him to be done. I like Manning, but not being able to be on the team with the number 1 pick says a lot. They are building monuments to him with his one Super Bowl win. Maybe the wrong Manning is getting all the attention.


I just think guys like Manning, Favre, et al, are too driven by ego and over-inflation of self, to be somebodies mentor. Plenty wrong with that.


FTFY


With a very limited career of a few years and a staff of guys that are supposed to be coaches, why would it be a player's job at all to train the guy trying to take their job and end their career? I wouldn't do it at my own job if it would affect my long term job-health, yet we fans are single-minded enough to ask them to do exactly that.

How many of us would do it, help train a guy that will make you unemployed before you want to retire? The honest answer should be none.

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With a very limited career of a few years and a staff of guys that are supposed to be coaches, why would it be a player's job at all to train the guy trying to take their job and end their career? I wouldn't do it at my own job if it would affect my long term job-health, yet we fans are single-minded enough to ask them to do exactly that.

How many of us would do it, help train a guy that will make you unemployed before you want to retire? The honest answer should be none.


Real world vs. football world isn't the same. I think you've mentioned that yourself a few times. Besides, Luck wouldn't be there to end Manning's career. Age, health, performance would. There are countless NFL players who took the young guys under their wings knowing they only had a few years left with the team or even in the league. I don't buy the no one would help train a guy argument. If Manning is the firey competitor that everyone claims he is, then he should have no problem with them bringing in a replacement, especially at this stage of his career.


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pwbowen wrote:
With a very limited career of a few years and a staff of guys that are supposed to be coaches, why would it be a player's job at all to train the guy trying to take their job and end their career? I wouldn't do it at my own job if it would affect my long term job-health, yet we fans are single-minded enough to ask them to do exactly that.

How many of us would do it, help train a guy that will make you unemployed before you want to retire? The honest answer should be none.




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SonOfDad wrote:
pwbowen wrote:
With a very limited career of a few years and a staff of guys that are supposed to be coaches, why would it be a player's job at all to train the guy trying to take their job and end their career? I wouldn't do it at my own job if it would affect my long term job-health, yet we fans are single-minded enough to ask them to do exactly that.

How many of us would do it, help train a guy that will make you unemployed before you want to retire? The honest answer should be none.


Real world vs. football world isn't the same. I think you've mentioned that yourself a few times. Besides, Luck wouldn't be there to end Manning's career. Age, health, performance would. There are countless NFL players who took the young guys under their wings knowing they only had a few years left with the team or even in the league. I don't buy the no one would help train a guy argument. If Manning is the firey competitor that everyone claims he is, then he should have no problem with them bringing in a replacement, especially at this stage of his career.


Um, then why would Luck be there? He'd only be on the bench as long as Manning can hold him off.

Pro athlete: practice your job to keep getting better or spend time teaching the young guy who's there to ultimately take your place?

We aren't talking about a Steve Deberg or Mark Brunell, we're talking about a HOF caliber QB who has to firmly believe he's still the stud QB to lead a team to a title.

Also, let's realize why great athletes make crappy coaches: they do a lot instinctually and it's not easy for them to verbalize what and how they do it. Reggie White couldn't even teach that hump move of his no matter how much he tried.

As Jim Finks said "Owners own, coaches coach, players play."

It's fans wanting to believe that their sports heroes are such great guys that would do anything for their favorite team, like train their own replacement.

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Manning is actually a anti train QBer. He took 2nd and 3rd string snaps in practice. Besides first string. I mean Painter just sat through practice like he was watching daddy at work.

Probably read a magazine or something.

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pwbowen wrote:
SonOfDad wrote:
pwbowen wrote:
With a very limited career of a few years and a staff of guys that are supposed to be coaches, why would it be a player's job at all to train the guy trying to take their job and end their career? I wouldn't do it at my own job if it would affect my long term job-health, yet we fans are single-minded enough to ask them to do exactly that.

How many of us would do it, help train a guy that will make you unemployed before you want to retire? The honest answer should be none.


Real world vs. football world isn't the same. I think you've mentioned that yourself a few times. Besides, Luck wouldn't be there to end Manning's career. Age, health, performance would. There are countless NFL players who took the young guys under their wings knowing they only had a few years left with the team or even in the league. I don't buy the no one would help train a guy argument. If Manning is the firey competitor that everyone claims he is, then he should have no problem with them bringing in a replacement, especially at this stage of his career.


Um, then why would Luck be there? He'd only be on the bench as long as Manning can hold him off.

Pro athlete: practice your job to keep getting better or spend time teaching the young guy who's there to ultimately take your place?

We aren't talking about a Steve Deberg or Mark Brunell, we're talking about a HOF caliber QB who has to firmly believe he's still the stud QB to lead a team to a title.

Also, let's realize why great athletes make crappy coaches: they do a lot instinctually and it's not easy for them to verbalize what and how they do it. Reggie White couldn't even teach that hump move of his no matter how much he tried.

As Jim Finks said "Owners own, coaches coach, players play."

It's fans wanting to believe that their sports heroes are such great guys that would do anything for their favorite team, like train their own replacement.

Isn't that what I pretty much said already?


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