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..and draft someone with talent and athletic ability.

I'm not promoting Rutger's Mohamed Sanu to the Pats here but, from what I've gathered a kid like him would be useful running routes in New England.

Pats are sitting pretty at the bottom of the 1st this year with the 27th and 31st pick.. (I believe those picks are right - someone correct me if I'm off here)

Somethings got to be done there at WR imo.

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..and draft someone with talent and athletic ability.

I'm not promoting Rutger's Mohamed Sanu to the Pats here but, from what I've gathered a kid like him would be useful running routes in New England.

Pats are sitting pretty at the bottom of the 1st this year with the 27th and 31st pick.. (I believe those picks are right - someone correct me if I'm off here)

Somethings got to be done there at WR imo.



Disagree they need some serious defensive help. Wr for them in the first would be waste of either there first rounders. On top of that sanu wouldnt be a good fit. Brady threw for his second highest td total of his career not mention top 3 in yardage in his career.


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birddog wrote:
..and draft someone with talent and athletic ability.

I'm not promoting Rutger's Mohamed Sanu to the Pats here but, from what I've gathered a kid like him would be useful running routes in New England.

Pats are sitting pretty at the bottom of the 1st this year with the 27th and 31st pick.. (I believe those picks are right - someone correct me if I'm off here)

Somethings got to be done there at WR imo.


I suppose. Not a necessity though. They were a healthy Gronk away from winning the Super Bowl. I guess if they found a non-diva receiver that fits their mold they'd take him, but I think some linemen (both sides) are more likely if they keep those picks.

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I'm not sure what they need but hopefully a Patriot fan with a better memory than mine chimes in.

My recollection of their 3 Super Bowl winning team compositions was that their WR/TE receiving corps is better today than any of those three winning teams where the only player I can recall being noteworthy was Deion Branch in the 2003 or 2004 Super Bowl and perhaps Troy Brown.

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take this for what its worth .. interesting, if nothing else :

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1054 ... d-patriots

basically they say:

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Pick 27. Devon Still, DT, Penn State

Pick 31. Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin

Pick 48. Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia

Pick 63. Rueben Randle, WR, LSU

Pick 94. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana

Pick 126. B.J. Cunningham, WR, Michigan State

Pick 206. Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa


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they need to address defense or OL well before they do anything with WRs.

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raynman wrote:
they need to address defense or OL well before they do anything with WRs.


looks like you agree with BleacherReport ...


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FLPatsFan wrote:
raynman wrote:
they need to address defense or OL well before they do anything with WRs.


looks like you agree with BleacherReport ...


i would address the defensive backfield before i touch the oline

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jetsman2806 wrote:
FLPatsFan wrote:
raynman wrote:
they need to address defense or OL well before they do anything with WRs.


looks like you agree with BleacherReport ...


i would address the defensive backfield before i touch the oline


Defense needs to be addressed undoubtedly but I haven't done my homework on which position has the most depth at in the draft.

I would like to mention though that I was really impressed with Sterling Moore in these playoffs. I thought he played pretty damn well, put some licks out there. He's the same guy who knocked the Lee Evans TD pass out. He's going to be an interesting guy to keep track of. He's only 22.

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FLPatsFan wrote:
raynman wrote:
they need to address defense or OL well before they do anything with WRs.


looks like you agree with BleacherReport ...


I'll agree too. They have no business taking a WR inside of the 2nd pick. CB and Center to protect aging Brady.

Then again, New England has 2 1sts and 2 2nds, so they should be able to make out like a bandit.

Yeah, they could use some speed, which would free up Gronk and Hernandez even more. Chad Johnson and Deon Branch are slow as molasses, and the Edelman experiment is done, he sucks.


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in a first round mock i did a couple weeks back i focused on the pats pass rush and gave them fletcher cox (to line up as DE in the 3-4 i think the pats will be returning to as their base) and bruce irvin (pass rush specialist/OLB).

i would probably go BPA between CB/FS/OL with the next couple picks.

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They need what the Giants have

WRs that can get seperation outside the numbers

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Athletic and disruptive DE/OLBS.

Sure they can use another CB type that can run/cover, but a lot of their problems on defense will go away with a pass rush.

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i will say i don't see the pats keeping both 1st rounders. i don't think they can do it. they'll trade it off. it's an addiction that i don't see resulting in them getting better for the long haul.

i'm not a fan of what they have done with the draft the past few years. trades haven't really benefited them and aside from a couple picks they've been atrocious since paoli left but i think they were struggling a couple years before that.

fwiw, i just saw this said in an article at "mocking the draft"
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Up until 2006, the Patriots were still effective drafters. Vince Wilfork, Logan Mankins and Ty Warren were all first rounders, and the team managed to find Asante Samuel, Matt Cassel and Dan Koppen in the later rounds. And that was all between the years of 2003 and 2005. The drafts prior had also been successful.

But starting in 2006, things haven't gone well for the Patriots. The secondary was obviously a major weakness of New England's this season, but in the last six drafts, Belichick has spent 10 draft picks on defensive backs. With Devin McCourty suffering from a sophomore slump and Patrick Chung spending most of the season injured, New England did not get significant contribution from any of those 10 players this season.

The Patriots deserve credit for the two tight ends drafted in 2010. Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski have proven to be huge weapons for that offense. If Devin McCourty can get back on track, which is a big if, than the 2010 draft class has a chance to be a success. Three significant contributors would warrant that label.

2009 was a disaster. The team hit with Patrick Chung, but missed on just about every other pick. Meanwhile, Jerod Mayo was the only decent player to come out of the 2008 draft, and Stephen Gostkowski was the only useful asset to come out of either the 2006 or 2007 draft.

That's not missing on a few picks or having an off year, that is absolutely terrible drafting.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/2/6 ... -nfl-draft

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We just watched the Super Bowl and the Patriots held New York's offense to 18pts.. Gave the ball back to the Giants on a saftey and the Pats allowed the Giants to run a TD in with :50 left on the clock vs attempt to stop them and force a FG...

on the other hand... they couldn't get the ball down-field to score more than 17pts. sad.

OL sure I can see one of those 1st round picks going there - we just watched their 2011 1st rnd #17 pick OT Nate Solider get pulled and replaced with Sebastian Vollmer.. Something tells me Solider will be fine going forward though.


New England had nothing impacting the game running routes unless it was underneath.. They need help.

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birddog wrote:
New England had nothing impacting the game running routes unless it was underneath.. They need help.


Just saw this on Rotoworld.

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Patriots named Josh McDaniels offensive coordinator.

He succeeds Bill O'Brien, who left for Penn State. McDaniels was New England's offensive coordinator in 2006, 2007, and 2008. In 2008, he oversaw a unit that lost Tom Brady in to a season-ending knee injury in Week 1 yet still finished fifth in the NFL in total offense. McDaniels' 2007 offense finished first in overall offense and first in passing. McDaniels has placed an emphasis on utilizing a vertical passing game, specifically with Randy Moss and Brandon Lloyd as big-time and heavily targeted vertical threats. We suspect he will push for the addition of a true No. 1 wideout this offseason.
Source: Shalise Manza Young on Twitter Feb 6 - 3

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