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PostPosted: Wed 07.11.2012, 22:24 
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This guy seems like a great value at his ADP. I've been reading up on his off season. He's really happy with the coaching change and he has quietly been one of fantasy's steadiest backs. I cannot really find any red flags on the guy other than his injury history and the poor offense he plays on and neither of these reasons stopped him from having very strong seasons the past several years. Imagine what he would produce if the Rams offense figured it out in Bradford's third season? I see value plus upside.


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PostPosted: Wed 07.11.2012, 23:29 
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This guy seems like a great value at his ADP. I've been reading up on his off season. He's really happy with the coaching change and he has quietly been one of fantasy's steadiest backs. I cannot really find any red flags on the guy other than his injury history and the poor offense he plays on and neither of these reasons stopped him from having very strong seasons the past several years. Imagine what he would produce if the Rams offense figured it out in Bradford's third season? I see value plus upside.


I'm seeing an ADP of about 36 on SJax.

Could be a good value . . . or this could be the year he gets old overnight.

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PostPosted: Thu 07.12.2012, 08:36 
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He's probably not going to be on my teams as his value is in the late 3rd/early 4th and I'll probably go RB-RB to start, but teams that don't start off with a double dose of RB's hope he falls. Pead's going to keep him fresh, Marty Jr. is going to feed him, and Fish knows he's the focal point of the offense. I think he has another year or 2 in him.

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PostPosted: Thu 07.12.2012, 08:48 
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At age 29 at the begining of the season with 2,138 carrier carries. The following is active (needs updating I know) I'd say at most he has one year left at best before the abysmal drop of. I know he keeps himself in great shape but wow those tires are going bald...

Player Carries
1 LaDainian Tomlinson (32) 3174
2 Thomas Jones (33) 2678
3 Ricky Williams (34) 2431
4 Steven Jackson (28) 2138
5 Willis McGahee (30) 1790
6 Frank Gore (28) 1653
7 Cedric Benson (29) 1529
8 Maurice Jones-Drew (26) 1484
9 Larry Johnson (32) 1427
10 Michael Turner (29) 1417
11 Adrian Peterson (26) 1406
12 Chris Johnson (26) 1187
13 Ronnie Brown (30) 1170
14 Chester Taylor (32) 1160
15 Marion Barber (28) 1156
16 Marshawn Lynch (25) 1137
17 Joseph Addai (28) 1095
18 Brandon Jacobs (29) 1078
19 Cadillac Williams (29) 1055
20 Matt Forte (26) 1014
21 DeAngelo Williams (28) 996
22 Ray Rice (24) 959

I don't mind drafting him but I wouldn't want him as my RB1.


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Wow that's a big number.


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OarChambo wrote:
He's probably not going to be on my teams as his value is in the late 3rd/early 4th and I'll probably go RB-RB to start, but teams that don't start off with a double dose of RB's hope he falls. Pead's going to keep him fresh, Marty Jr. is going to feed him, and Fish knows he's the focal point of the offense. I think he has another year or 2 in him.


Agree with everything here.

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OarChambo wrote:
He's probably not going to be on my teams as his value is in the late 3rd/early 4th and I'll probably go RB-RB to start, but teams that don't start off with a double dose of RB's hope he falls. Pead's going to keep him fresh, Marty Jr. is going to feed him, and Fish knows he's the focal point of the offense. I think he has another year or 2 in him.


Same here... I'd take him if he drops but I doubt he will.

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I believe that grabbing him at @ his projected ADP today is fine for anyone needing a rb then..but I would make damn sure to grab Pead in the later rounds. In fact, I really like Pead's upside this year..for a late round cost. He's an injury away from being the man, and I think this kid could really shine as soon as this year. I will definitely grab this kid in dyno's this year.

Jackson has averaged 305 carries the last 3 years, he's been a phenomenal back and very productive despite his spotty injury history..you have to be in there to amass those carries. If jackson goes down for a considerable time, Pead will inherit a good sized workload for a back. Pead is @ 190 lbs, and quick with good hands, he doesnt pound between the tackles in the NFL but will be an excellent 3rd down back this year who is a willing and capable blocker and a must have handcuff.

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I dont think Sjax has 2 yrs left in him.

I think hes got 0-1 depending.

Forget the touch count total, think more about the sort of tackles hes been hit by. Those carries arent of the Chris Johnson variety (a handful of shirt, an ankle trip, or just dialled in). Dude gave 120% on every play - often through injury and often the hardest yards on a struggling team. His news ticker is pages and pages of injury notes. The guy is a warrior and i hope he goes probowl at the very least as a last hurrah - noone deserves it more.

Only way he can turn it around has nothing to do with Bradford, Pead or the pass:rush split and everything to do with Paul Boudreau.

If he can recreate something special on the OL with whats been left to him. He has a couple of semi-decent building blocks in Saffold and Smith (tho im far from convinced about the latter ... ). In 2011, those pair of tackles combined to miss a major amount of time whereas the previous season they worked fine in keeping a rookie Bradford and a plehtora of oft-injured WRs 7-9. Last year missing major time that record was much, much, much worse. Dahl was maligned as he was forced to play out of position. Not much quality behind the staretrs if they go down :(

If he needs more than a year to get that line clicking? Sjax is in for a long hard RB3 season and alot of pain. That said? If anyone get get that line working properly tho its him and if he does then Jackson does have great ADP value.

Going to wait till i see how the line looks in TC, but if it looks like last years (which im optimistic it wont)? Ill be taking Turner a round later instead.

Boudreau is an absolutely phenomenal coach and the best move the Rams made this past season bar none imho.


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I would take him at his current ADP, but would definitely pick up Pead for the handcuff. It sounds like they are planning on Pead being the future, and I expect him to get plenty of touches this year.


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A lot depends on Pead. Really we no nothing about him. I see the season starting out riding S Jax then if Pead takes off I could see fisher trying to move S Jax to a playoff contender. Out with the old in with the new. S Jax won't be around by the time STL has a 8-8 record.

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Pead's upside is he turns into a D.Sproles type in 2-3 yrs.

I don't see him getting much more than 100 touches in 2012.

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hankrip wrote:
Pead's upside is he turns into a D.Sproles type in 2-3 yrs.

I don't see him getting much more than 100 touches in 2012.


Jamaal Charles #25 RB. Height: 5-11 Weight: 199 4.38 40 Low: 4.32

Isaiah Pead, RB, 5-10, 193, Cincinnati 4.47 40 Low: 4.35

Height: 5-6 Weight: 190 Age: 29 4.5 40 low: 4.45

I expect Fisher to pair Pead with a goal line back much as KC does as well as Tenn did with CJ the len whale.

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badgasman9 wrote:
hankrip wrote:
Pead's upside is he turns into a D.Sproles type in 2-3 yrs.

I don't see him getting much more than 100 touches in 2012.


Jamaal Charles #25 RB. Height: 5-11 Weight: 199 4.38 40 Low: 4.32

Isaiah Pead, RB, 5-10, 193, Cincinnati 4.47 40 Low: 4.35

Height: 5-6 Weight: 190 Age: 29 4.5 40 low: 4.45

I expect Fisher to pair Pead with a goal line back much as KC does as well as Tenn did with CJ the len whale.



I like the thinking here but I think you're overestimating Pead's level of talent (Yes he's talented but..) when comparing him to JC and CJ.


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badgasman9 wrote:
hankrip wrote:
Pead's upside is he turns into a D.Sproles type in 2-3 yrs.

I don't see him getting much more than 100 touches in 2012.


Jamaal Charles #25 RB. Height: 5-11 Weight: 199 4.38 40 Low: 4.32

Isaiah Pead, RB, 5-10, 193, Cincinnati 4.47 40 Low: 4.35

Height: 5-6 Weight: 190 Age: 29 4.5 40 low: 4.45

I expect Fisher to pair Pead with a goal line back much as KC does as well as Tenn did with CJ the len whale.


Charles had 94 touches his rookie year

I agree with Hankrip AND Badgas, Pead gets around 100 touches this year

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