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PostPosted: Sun 08.12.2012, 20:19 
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Does this change draft strategy if QBs get 6 points for thrown. I pick 8th.

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PostPosted: Sun 08.12.2012, 20:23 
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billy beru wrote:
Does this change draft strategy if QBs get 6 points for thrown. I pick 8th.


Some very interesting discussion in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=286585

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billy beru wrote:
Does this change draft strategy if QBs get 6 points for thrown. I pick 8th.

Of course makes qbs more valuable than rbs.rogers w/45 tds?! as opposed to the best wr at 19 and mccoy at 20

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NorthernKnight wrote:
billy beru wrote:
Does this change draft strategy if QBs get 6 points for thrown. I pick 8th.

Of course makes qbs more valuable than rbs.rogers w/45 tds?! as opposed to the best wr at 19 and mccoy at 20


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billy beru wrote:
Does this change draft strategy if QBs get 6 points for thrown. I pick 8th.


Yes, a little bit it does.

It really hurts guys who run it in.

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Only matters if you’re comparing QB points to other positions, which you shouldn't be doing anyway.

Other than that, it's all relative within the QB tier.

Most sharks here say it doesn’t matter. Yet, in the shark leagues a QB touchdown is only worth 3 points. It’s always made me wonder if it doesn't matter then why the handicap? I don't know how someone can say it doesn't matter and in the very next sentence be in favor of a 3 point touchdown. A touchdown is a touchdown and it's worth 6 points.


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clarky2120 wrote:
Only matters if you’re comparing QB points to other positions, which you shouldn't be doing anyway.

Other than that, it's all relative within the QB tier.

Most sharks here say it doesn’t matter. Yet, in the shark leagues a QB touchdown is only worth 3 points. It’s always made me wonder if it doesn't matter then why the handicap? I don't know how someone can say it doesn't matter and in the very next sentence be in favor of a 3 point touchdown. A touchdown is a touchdown and it's worth 6 points.


So your league is a TD only league, right? You don't give points for yardage, catches or anything else? Cause if a TD is a TD and is worth 6 is your logic then nothing else is worth anything.

And since you play more than just QBs at some point you do have to compare them to other positions. It creates more seperation between the QBs themselves and therefor more points to be earned by grabbing a QB a little earlier.

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yes it changes strategy. QBs are obviously more valuable. how much more valuable depends upon the rest of the scoring system, the starting lineup requirements, and the roster size.

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15 td difference between QB's between point systems is less than 2 points per game difference between the 2 scoring systems. 10 td difference between QB's is a little over 1 point per game. Really not a huge difference. It does give a little boost but not enough IMO to completely change your draft strategy.

Realistically you're looking at about 1.5 point per game difference between a QB simliar to Tony Romo and a QB simliar to Aaron Rodgers when you account for 6 point throwing td's.


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Sneaky wrote:
15 td difference between QB's between point systems is less than 2 points per game difference between the 2 scoring systems. 10 td difference between QB's is a little over 1 point per game. Really not a huge difference. It does give a little boost but not enough IMO to completely change your draft strategy.

Realistically you're looking at about 1.5 point per game difference between a QB simliar to Tony Romo and a QB simliar to Aaron Rodgers when you account for 6 point throwing td's.


2 points a game is enough to swing 2 or 3 games in a season. Most of the other positions average 10 to 12 points a week for your starters in standard scoring leagues.

I don't think anyone's saying it goes to 6 QBs in the first round like a 2QB league, but the QBs do move up a bit.

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Hell yes it does. I NEVER choose a QB first round, but may this year in a money league where QB's get 6 for a passing TD. If you look at the top RB compared to an AVERAGE QB, I've found that the points are about equal in several leagues...and that's just an Average QB.

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Sneaky wrote:
15 td difference between QB's between point systems is less than 2 points per game difference between the 2 scoring systems. 10 td difference between QB's is a little over 1 point per game. Really not a huge difference. It does give a little boost but not enough IMO to completely change your draft strategy.

Realistically you're looking at about 1.5 point per game difference between a QB simliar to Tony Romo and a QB simliar to Aaron Rodgers when you account for 6 point throwing td's.


I've got to point out that this is grossly inaccurate. If you were to go by 6pt passing TDs only, the difference between Romo and Rodgers is 4.5ppg based on this years projections. Thats a fair advantage to start, but when you consider that most leagues include points for yards, -pts for ints, rushing yds and TDs, ect, based on this years projections and 6pt passing TDs, the difference between Rodgers and Romo is 8.75ppg. That huge. Six-pt passing TD leagues require that difference to be at least respected to be competitive.

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I'm sure there are guys out there that like to see their QBs out-score every other living player on the field; but when it comes down to it, your QB is going up against your opponents' QBs the same regardless of how many points passing TDs are worth. If your QB throws more TDs and gains more yards...it's the same regardless. You have to compare apples to apples.

The only area I see this affecting is for rushing QBs that the coaches will allow to run across the endzone and get hammered. While Cam did that a lot last season, it needs to be limited if they want him to stick around for a while.

But the problem we still see here anyway is that while Cam ran for about 12 TDs, he threw for a whole lot less, thus negating some of that value regardless of points for TDs.

So you might bump up a QB who will scramble a bit more, but reality is that the rankings and draft strategies stay the same.

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