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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 21:42 
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http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/adp-ppr.php?viewpos=all&sortby=consensus

Great tool that lists four different sources' ADPs and a consensus.

Previously updated on 8-10-12.

What is particularly interesting is the change in the ADP in five days' time.

Notable:

Julio Jones up 12 spots to 17 on the strength of a single meaningless exhibition game (and Roddy's corresponding drop of 4 spots).

MJD dropping from 7 to 11. Just means extra value for those of us who aren't buying a protracted holdout.

Trent dropping 10 spots to the end of the second round. Again, value for believers.

Ryan Mathews up 6 spots back into the second round.

Mike Wallace continues to free-fall to the end of the fourth round. Mmm . . . smell the value!

Ike Redman up 5 spots (until he plummets 20 spots at the next update).

Pierre Garcon with a 9-spot "somersault." Gotta love exhibition fever!


NOTE: These are PPR rankings. Click around the site for dinosaur, er, standard rankings. Hey, just kidding. They now have a non-PPR column.

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Forte, AndreB, Vereen, Trent, Starks
Andre, VJax, Torrey, Cooper, Cordy, Terrance
Martellus, Wright
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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 21:54 
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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 22:07 
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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 22:19 
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Don't people have to pay for that info?


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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 22:25 
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rugger48 wrote:
Don't people have to pay for that info?


not the adp info


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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 22:27 
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rjfras wrote:
rugger48 wrote:
Don't people have to pay for that info?


not the adp info



I seen subscriber in the link, I guess not.


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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 22:34 
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Yeah, I thought about that after I posted it. Thanks for bringing it up.

They have some free content they offer in the pre-season in order to entice people to subscribe.

If you get on their email list you get daily emails. Once the season starts, they only send them to paid subscribers.

Site has some good podcasts if you're into that sort of thing.

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Cutler, Ben
Forte, AndreB, Vereen, Trent, Starks
Andre, VJax, Torrey, Cooper, Cordy, Terrance
Martellus, Wright
CIN

Lost to INJ/dope/Shanny: Cobb-Wayne-MJames/Blackmon/RGIII

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PostPosted: Wed 08.15.2012, 23:38 
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I don't know how value Wallace has. He is very talented WR but with Steelers messing with him like that and trying to cause chemistry issues among the team makes me skeptical.


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PostPosted: Thu 08.16.2012, 05:46 
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ADP is only valuable at the time you draft. Beware looking at trends like this, or you get caught up in the herd mentality, the monkey see/monkey do thing. Don't adjust your rankings based only on the herd.

Case in point - Julio Jones. I'm seeig him going earlier and earlier in drafts I monitor and participate in - why? Is Roddy hurt? No. Has he looked especially great in camp? Not that I've read. Has Ryan called him his favorite target? No. So why is his ADP going earlier? Because owners are starting to think, "Gee, I don't have him ranked that high, but his ADP is improving, so everybody must know something I don't. I better grab him now." Which further drives up the ADP.

Don't get caught up in the psychology. ADP is a valuable tool, but don't adjust your rankings based on it. It tells you what you can wait on, not what you should jump at earlier than you wanted.

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PostPosted: Thu 08.16.2012, 06:21 
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You guys act like julio doesn't have the potential to be a top 3 wr..and the way the coaches will use him this year is why his adp changed so much. Anyone who seen a glimpse in the new offense and hurry up offense they run then they know julio will put up big numbers this year...guys are taking Calvin at 6..I don't see what's wrong with taking julio in the 2nd. Doesn't mean you have to target him...but oh well until the season starts this doesn't mean anything.


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PostPosted: Thu 08.16.2012, 06:51 
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gballs1 wrote:
ADP is only valuable at the time you draft. Beware looking at trends like this, or you get caught up in the herd mentality, the monkey see/monkey do thing. Don't adjust your rankings based only on the herd.

Case in point - Julio Jones. I'm seeig him going earlier and earlier in drafts I monitor and participate in - why? Is Roddy hurt? No. Has he looked especially great in camp? Not that I've read. Has Ryan called him his favorite target? No. So why is his ADP going earlier? Because owners are starting to think, "Gee, I don't have him ranked that high, but his ADP is improving, so everybody must know something I don't. I better grab him now." Which further drives up the ADP.

Don't get caught up in the psychology. ADP is a valuable tool, but don't adjust your rankings based on it. It tells you what you can wait on, not what you should jump at earlier than you wanted.

Agreed 100%. I either use an ADP list or at least have a column next to my rankings of their ADP. I have a pretty good idea where everyone is ranked in my own head, I just need to know which round I can typically take him in.


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PostPosted: Thu 08.16.2012, 06:57 
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Killa CAM CAN!! wrote:
You guys act like julio doesn't have the potential to be a top 3 wr..and the way the coaches will use him this year is why his adp changed so much. Anyone who seen a glimpse in the new offense and hurry up offense they run then they know julio will put up big numbers this year...guys are taking Calvin at 6..I don't see what's wrong with taking julio in the 2nd. Doesn't mean you have to target him...but oh well until the season starts this doesn't mean anything.


We know you love Julio. We know you will reach for Julio. But this thread has nothing to do with Julio.

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Cutler, Ben
Forte, AndreB, Vereen, Trent, Starks
Andre, VJax, Torrey, Cooper, Cordy, Terrance
Martellus, Wright
CIN

Lost to INJ/dope/Shanny: Cobb-Wayne-MJames/Blackmon/RGIII

10-4, 1 seed,


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TheNataliePortmans wrote:

Julio Jones up 12 spots to 17 on the strength of a single meaningless exhibition game (and Roddy's corresponding drop of 4 spots).


Killa CAM CAN!! wrote:
the way the coaches will use him this year is why his adp changed so much. Anyone who seen a glimpse in the new offense and hurry up offense they run then they know julio will put up big numbers this year...

:lol:

Full disclosure: I took Julio late in the second yesterday, but the above made me laugh.


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PostPosted: Thu 08.16.2012, 07:00 
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guys, anyone EVER see any rankings/projections or articles/analysis on .5ppr leagues? obviously when looking at guys we can allow for it, and do some quick math to account for .5ppr when looking at both standard and full PPR lists.... just figured there might be some .5ppr content out there.

and thanks Portman, i'm always on the lookout for decent FF podcasts...

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PostPosted: Thu 08.16.2012, 07:09 
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Your lil narrations for the reasons guys adp changed is hilarious.


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