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 Post subject: 20-Team League Strategy
PostPosted: Thu 08.30.2012, 17:43 
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Hi all,

I'm participating in my first ever 20-team league with a draft on Sunday - it includes IDP and the roster settings are as follows:

QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, W/R/T, K
D, DB, DB, DB, DL, DL, LB, LB, LB
BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

It is a PPR league with standard scoring. I'm thinking that unless I get a top-4 pick that I should be grabbing a QB in the first round to ensure I get a good one before a run starts and I get potentially shut out. Is this a good strategy? Any other input about deep league strategy(either 18+ teams and/or 400+ players drafted) would also be much appreciated!

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PostPosted: Thu 08.30.2012, 18:04 
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Sorry. I will move this to the appropriate forum now.


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I don't think I could wrap my head around a 20 team league. I'd probably have to see the scoring. Without that, I think you'd have to make sure you grab one of those top 12 running backs, if you're so lucky. Then QB in the second depending on who's available. That's a tricky one.

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PostPosted: Thu 08.30.2012, 18:36 
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Here are the scoring settings:

Offense
Completions - 0.1
Passing Yards - 40 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns - 4
Interceptions -2
Rushing Yards - 10 yards per point
Rushing Touchdowns- 6
Receptions .5
Reception Yards - 10 yards per point
Reception Touchdowns - 6
Return Yards - 25 yards per point
Return Touchdowns - 6

Defense
Tackle Solo - 1.25
Tackle Assist - .5
Sack - 3
Interception - 4
Fumble Force - 3
Fumble Recovery - 1
Defensive Touchdown - 6
Safety - 2
Pass Defended - .75


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PostPosted: Thu 08.30.2012, 19:22 
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That's going to be a tough draft to really plan for. As EZ said, I think a QB and RB would be my first two picks....which one depends on who's left at your pick.


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PostPosted: Thu 08.30.2012, 20:24 
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Just go with safe, as there will be no ww options at all and you cant afford to take risks or injury prone guys


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PostPosted: Thu 08.30.2012, 20:32 
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My strategy is to leave the 20-team league and sign up for a 10 or 12 man league. :P

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I actually think I would love to partcipate in that, just for kicks! Let us know how it goes :D

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paulie86 wrote:
I actually think I would love to partcipate in that, just for kicks! Let us know how it goes :D


You got it. The draft is Sunday evening at 7, I'll post the results when it's over if the thread doesn't get buried too deeply.

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My strategy is to leave the 20-team league and sign up for a 10 or 12 man league. :P


I've been doing those for a while, wanted to try something new! :thumbright:


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Gill Posse wrote:
My strategy is to leave the 20-team league and sign up for a 10 or 12 man league. :P


12 is the minimum.

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TheNataliePortmans wrote:
Gill Posse wrote:
My strategy is to leave the 20-team league and sign up for a 10 or 12 man league. :P


12 is the minimum.


Agreed. I personally wouldn't sign up for less than a 12-man league. The higher team leagues would be interesting to try out depending on how the scoring is set-up.

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would be a fun draft if auction, otherwise I wouldn't go near it if it's a snake.

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PostPosted: Fri 08.31.2012, 14:45 
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My strategy would be to focus on the elite players with the lowest turnover rate. If there was ever a time to adopt the strategy of taking a QB first, it would be in this league. If you could somehow land an elite QB you'd have a distinct advantage over a majority of the playing field. When grabbing RBs, look for consistency over high variance.


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PostPosted: Fri 08.31.2012, 14:52 
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QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, W/R/T, K
D, DB, DB, DB, DL, DL, LB, LB, LB
BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Crazy. 9 positional starters on offense. Kicker, Defense. 8 IDP starters and 6 on the bench. 20 teams with 25 players each ... 500 drafted. Even with IDP that is a bunch of players.

I would ignore QB: Passing Yards - 40 yards per point, Passing Touchdowns - 4, Interceptions -2. That is a recipe for lower than normal QB scoring. And with the shallow bench, there will STILL be a handful of free agents, even with 20 teams. I would probably plan on starting 2 RB's, 5 WR's and 1 TE.

I would be reluctant to draft anything other than an RB with that many teams and all needing a minimum of 2 starters. I think I would go into the draft with the idea to grab 2 RB's to lead off and then just start selecting WR's. If by chance there is a decent value at RB in the 3rd or 4th round ... consider it as a flex.

I would ignore the defensive players. Just considering the NFL is about half defensive players and half offense (ignore the specialists). DB, DL, and LB covers the entire defense, and defenses use players situationally, so ALL of the roughly 750 defensive players can be drafted. On the other hand, some offensive players don't ever get used (backup QB, 4th string RB) and offensive lineman are not fantasy players. So the 9 offense positional starters come from a smaller pool ... 180 get started each week in your league, on a per NFL team basis that is roughly 6 fantasy players from each team. IDP, your league uses 160 starters or about 5 fantasy players per NFL team ... and there are more available.

I think the bang for the buck is in going for WR's. 7th round, 120 players are gone, 8th round 140 players are gone ... RB's are scraped out ... just start going thru depth charts and taking 3rd WR's, Miami WR's even Anyone with return yards might be a starter at 25 yards per point ... although I would REALLY look hard for DB's with returns once the offensive starting slots are full.

Have you guys thought about doubling the NFL ... use each player twice? Or is the point to have a lot of digging into the lessor players?


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PostPosted: Fri 08.31.2012, 14:57 
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Been in a few 16-20 team leagues before as a personal challenge. Based upon my experience and your scoring settings, my advice would be to grab RB early and often. Those who don't will get screwed on that 2nd RB slot, and you should have a huge advantage in the flex spots if you're able to put a starting RB3 in there vs. others putting in a WR6. Would also suggest filling all your offensive spots and a few bench spots for them before even thinking of going IDP. IDP is much easier to stream based upon matchups with a far deeper pool of players to choose from when you've got this many owners. Also do yourself a favor and get a list of WRs/RBs who mostly specialize in kick and punt returns. They make great late round picks.

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