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PostPosted: Fri 09.28.2012, 14:24 
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This was analyzed a lot in the pre-draft-season ... how the NFL has abandoned the running game. But I see the numbers thru 3 games and it seems that it is worse than expected. Thursday Night, the Ravens had 46 pass attempts and 27 rushes ... The Browns had 52 pass attempts and 17 rushes.

I looked at all the week-3 box scores, comparing the pass play number, the rushing play number, and the carries by the back with the most carries. In total, there were 1180 pass attempts, 881 rushing plays, with 555 by the primary back. 2071 plays, 57% passing/43 % rushing. Unfortunately as teams use multiple RB's, the team leading rushers (in carries) account for 27% of plays.

For week 3, teams averaged 37 pass plays, 28 rushing plays, with 17 of those by the primary back.

There are 18 RB's with more than 200 rushing yards thru 3 games (1065 yard season pace). There are 31 WR's with more than 200 yards thru 3 games. 17 QB's are over 250 yards per game (a 4000 yard season pace). The drop off in fantasy points for RB's is steeper than ever.

I would say that the quality RB is rarer than ever.

I could post the team by team breakdowns for week 3 but the numbers are in a spreadsheet and lose formatting inserted into a post.


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PostPosted: Fri 09.28.2012, 14:26 
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Interesting statistics. :Drink)

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PostPosted: Fri 09.28.2012, 14:35 
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I would say that the quality RB is rarer than ever.

Given what they're paid I would expect the best athletes to perfect their craft at another position, one that pays more.

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Running backs are also catching more passes than they used to.

All the more reason to play PPR.

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TheNataliePortmans wrote:
Running backs are also catching more passes than they used to.

All the more reason to play PPR.

This.

I love Ray Rice in his new slot receiver gig.


And the Pass/Run split percentage has been increasing for years (in favor of pass). It has remained flat since the 90s, 2011 was probably a small spike.

The more disturbing trend is the advent of RBBC. But for every coach that joins the dark side, it seems another coach dumps it.

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This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run

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Lundy Love wrote:
This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run

Are you fishing for a 25 page thread again? :wink:


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Lundy Love wrote:
This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run


By people, you mean the people in the early part of round 1.

Those three guys were gone within seven picks in my league.

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TheNataliePortmans wrote:
Lundy Love wrote:
This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run


By people, you mean the people in the early part of round 1.

Those three guys were gone within seven picks in my league.



The rbs I would have taken before a QB

Foster
Rice
McCoy
McFadden
Forte
Johnson. Oops. It happens
Lynch
MJD
Murray
Charles
Martin
Richardson
Matthews


The only QB to finish in the top 12 all weeks so far is Ryan Fitzpatrick and Robert Griffith III both taken after the 6 th round

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Lundy Love wrote:
The rbs I would have taken before a QB

Foster
Rice
McCoy
McFadden
Forte
Johnson. Oops. It happens
Lynch
MJD
Murray
Charles
Martin
Richardson
Matthews


The only QB to finish in the top 12 all weeks so far is Ryan Fitzpatrick and Robert Griffith III both taken after the 6 th round

And which of those RBs have finished top 12 every week?

Dang it, i bit.


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This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run


THIS.

The QB/TE strategy that everyone else was buying into is how I ended up with MJD/Foster/Bush on my team with Ryan as a QB.

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neal123454 wrote:
Lundy Love wrote:
The rbs I would have taken before a QB

Foster
Rice
McCoy
McFadden
Forte
Johnson. Oops. It happens
Lynch
MJD
Murray
Charles
Martin
Richardson
Matthews


The only QB to finish in the top 12 all weeks so far is Ryan Fitzpatrick and Robert Griffith III both taken after the 6 th round

And which of those RBs have finished top 12 every week?

Dang it, i bit.


The question is who would you Have at rb if you took a QB early. They are just not a lot of them after the second round and then ou have your nice shiny inconsistent QB and crap for rbs

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Lundy Love wrote:
This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run

Marshawn says hey. I took him with the 12th pick overall in my draft. Someone in the tank did a great job convincing me on his virtues last year. Very grateful for that.


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Inconsistent QB? Ok kid yourself all you want but if Rodgers and some of these other elite QBs are going to win games then they are going to have throw the ball consistently well and put up points most weeks. Eventually I'm going to target the RB that has the most carries this year and pick up his back up at some point around 9th or 10th week. Ray Rice's back up sounds nice.


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This is why I never understood why people were taking quarterbacks in the first round. With less running backs available It was important to grab a running back early.

Quarterbacks are plenty

Last I checked Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees and Tom Brady haven't distanced themselves

But having Ray Rice McCoy or even McFadden is going to help you in the long run


THIS.

The QB/TE strategy that everyone else was buying into is how I ended up with MJD/Foster/Bush on my team with Ryan as a QB.


No offense, but anyone having a high enough pick to start with Foster can look like a genius with five of the Top-50 picks.

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