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LeSean McCoy 2013 - over or under last years stats?

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If he stays healthy, he should be over. A lot of talk about Brown getting some work too though.


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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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LeSean McCoy 2013 - over or under last years stats?


He stays healthy, over by a mile. I think Brown eats into his carries a bit, but I think the Eagles run the ball more then they would under reid, offsetting the stolen carries from brown.

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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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everyone everywhere seems to be saying over, but i dont know why


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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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Because he had a real bad year last year due to the facts that he was injured for a month and the Eagles offensive line was decimated by week 2. Those guys are healthy apparently. If you watched any Eagles games last year, it was ugly. Probably the worst offensive line in the history of the NFL was fielded by them for most of the season.

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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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oh and because he should be a focal point of the new Chip Kelly offense. I personally am avoiding him in the first round though because their schedule is grueling and the offensive line still isn't that good. Also I don't believe Chip Kelly's offense will be effective, but that's just an opinion.

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Because he had a real bad year last year due to the facts that he was injured for a month and the Eagles offensive line was decimated by week 2. Those guys are healthy apparently. If you watched any Eagles games last year, it was ugly. Probably the worst offensive line in the history of the NFL was fielded by them for most of the season.


What he said =D>

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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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Because he had a real bad year last year due to the facts that he was injured for a month and the Eagles offensive line was decimated by week 2. Those guys are healthy apparently. If you watched any Eagles games last year, it was ugly. Probably the worst offensive line in the history of the NFL was fielded by them for most of the season.


What he said =D>


Not even close imho. ARI, OAK, StL and TEN would all disagree with you.

And thats just last season.

Hyperbole aside, I think we see something between his 10 and 11 seasons. Less recs than 2010 (78), less rushing yardage than 2011 (1,350ish)

Probably 50 recs, 1,200yds imho.

Vick will eat into his ceiling a little, as will the RB2 in PHI (who will be more valuable than alot of RB2s elsewhere - SDC, GBP etc).


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Not even close imho. ARI, OAK, StL and TEN would all disagree with you.


I should probably read things I reference closer.....lol.

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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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840 and 2 tds 2012

is this a trick question?


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840 and 2 tds 2012

is this a trick question?


Exactly. The question isn't over or under. The question is if 2013 will be more like 2010 or 2011.

I agree with jamcutpost. I think it will be closer to the rushing stats of 2010 and the receiving stats of 2011.


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If he stays healthy, he should be over. A lot of talk about Brown getting some work too though.

Brown will get more work, but given how much Chip is going to run it isn't going to effect McCoy much except in bad losses. I'm no Foles fan and I don't think Vick is a fit in Chip's offense, but I think either of them will do just enough to keep them in games which is all both of them will need to be quality fantasy options. McCoy's probably going to be on a lot of my teams and I hope to cuff Brown to him in all of them.

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 Post subject: Re: LeSean McCoy 2013
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If I wind up with McCoy in any leagues, I will definitely be grabbing Bryce Brown in those same leagues.

I don't see how McCoy doesn't improve on last year's stats. It might be hard not to.

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jamcutpost wrote:
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Because he had a real bad year last year due to the facts that he was injured for a month and the Eagles offensive line was decimated by week 2. Those guys are healthy apparently. If you watched any Eagles games last year, it was ugly. Probably the worst offensive line in the history of the NFL was fielded by them for most of the season.


What he said =D>


Not even close imho. ARI, OAK, StL and TEN would all disagree with you.

And thats just last season.

Hyperbole aside, I think we see something between his 10 and 11 seasons. Less recs than 2010 (78), less rushing yardage than 2011 (1,350ish)

Probably 50 recs, 1,200yds imho.

Vick will eat into his ceiling a little, as will the RB2 in PHI (who will be more valuable than alot of RB2s elsewhere - SDC, GBP etc).

I'm sorry to say, but the Eagles were way worse than any of those teams last year. Peters, Kelce, and Herremans all were injured, so they were left with a squad composed of practice squad players and rookies. Oakland's line was the only one that you listed that was even comparably bad.

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kbeaumont152 wrote:
I'm sorry to say, but the Eagles were way worse than any of those teams last year. Peters, Kelce, and Herremans all were injured, so they were left with a squad composed of practice squad players and rookies. Oakland's line was the only one that you listed that was even comparably bad.


Is that opinion based on film study? Because PFF has 6 teams rated behind the Eagles in terms of pass protection, and 26 teams behind them in terms of run blocking.

I'm not saying Pro Football Focus is the end all, be all, but they watch every snap and grade based on that. You seem to be basing your opinion solely on the fact that injuries occurred.


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