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Elmagister wrote:Looks like you're be wrong about him wanting to be there :dontknow:


I understand what you’re saying. I’m saying he should want to be there. I don’t understand why ghost thought Tom Brady is any example other wise. Other than he doesn’t goto OTAs.
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Lots of guys don't. They're voluntary.
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tsbgrayghost wrote:Tom Brady is running Patriots Special Top Secret Madden 2025 on a Pentagon super computer server with his receivers as we speak.

Just sayin.


rugger48 wrote:I agree to a point, but you would think being on a new team he would want to be there, he doesn’t have to be.



Just repeating



That was pretty obvious, you drinking last night?


Yes. My youngest graduated HS today....not that I needed an excuse after 10 working days in a row.
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Elmagister wrote:Lots of guys don't. They're voluntary.



I know.
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There’s a fine line between ‘team leader’ and ‘company stooge’. Your preconceptions of Baker will dictate which way you lean.
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I guess my response to that would be he is trying to get out of the way.
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und2006 wrote:I guess my response to that would be he is trying to get out of the way.

Yep
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I'd think the Browns would prefer he not say anything about it, so I'm not following the company stooge perspective.
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Baker seems to be something of a meathead.

Everything is black and white for him.
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Elmagister wrote:


With all the injuries, maybe he should train with someone new
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Maybe he is?

With all the injuries, why should he participate in voluntary activities that put him at risk?
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https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/playe ... am-jr/6942

How many of those injuries would have been prevented by whatever kind of training any of you think he should or shouldn't be doing?
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Elmagister wrote:Maybe he is?

With all the injuries, why should he participate in voluntary activities that put him at risk?


ok..^^ THAT
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My comment is not about whether he is in shape. Just simply stating an opinion on why he should be at OTAs when he’s with a new team, new coach, and new Qb. Just seems to make sense.


Nothing to do with his conditioning or if he is working.