Kyler Murray - Arizona Cardinal

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ya, makes sense
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Cadence calls wrote:So, he's going to screw over the football team that drafts him because he is screwing over the baseball team that drafted him?

A's knew the risk when they drafted him. This is probably the only reason he wasn't drafted even sooner and why many were surprised he was picked as early as he was.

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theoutlawdekepatton wrote:Are salaries in baseball lower than football?



Different is the word I would use, also mostly guarenteed. I would say on average, mlb salaries are higher.

There are some thoroughly mediocre center fielders making between $5 and $10 mil per year. Stars make $20 mil plus. Sliding scale in between. It just takes time to get there - unlike football.

Is his ceiling higher in one sport vs. the other? Not even sure it's debatable - depends on a lot of unknowns that can't be answered right now. His likelihood for a longer career without post sport health issues is greater in baseball. Even with a re-negotiated contract he's probably going to make more right away in football though. He needs to be picked near the top of round one, but given the pool of QB's this year I think he will despite his size limitations. But ultimately that second (and third?) contract will tell the story.
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I'm curious what's going to happen between now and the draft. If he is committed to being in the NFL over MLB, then him and Haskins both should go top 10.
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It's part because for the first time in decades I wasn't watching college ball with an eye towards potential Browns QB's, but I also never thought he'd waver from baseball. So take this with a grain of salt. But one thing I'll be looking for over the next few months are reports of slow eyes and indecisiveness. It didn't jump off the screen at me, but it'd explain a lot of what I casually saw but didn't think much of at the time. If you're watching him look at what he does when the first read isn't there. One positive that is incredibly difficult to coach though - his eyes (usually) stay down field when he leaves the pocket. That's especially important given his size, whatever it really is.
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports NFL scouts he's spoken to grade Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray as a second- or third-round pick.

RapSheet also made it clear that Murray's decision to submit his name as a 2019 draft prospect does not necessarily mean he will play in the NFL. Murray's agent, Scott Boras, has told the Oakland Athletics his client will report to spring training on time in April. At just 5-foot-9, Murray has been bantered about as a potential top-ten pick. A day-two draft selection seems more likely considering his size and questionable-at-best dedication to football as his primary sport.
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Someone will take him in the first though.

Matt Waldman touched on this in his podcast today (speaking generally, not about Murray).
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OarChambo wrote:It's part because for the first time in decades I wasn't watching college ball with an eye towards potential Browns QB's, but I also never thought he'd waver from baseball. So take this with a grain of salt. But one thing I'll be looking for over the next few months are reports of slow eyes and indecisiveness. It didn't jump off the screen at me, but it'd explain a lot of what I casually saw but didn't think much of at the time. If you're watching him look at what he does when the first read isn't there. One positive that is incredibly difficult to coach though - his eyes (usually) stay down field when he leaves the pocket. That's especially important given his size, whatever it really is.


Once more film sessions pop up on him and not highlight videos, I'll be trying to take a look and see that. Offhand, he didn't seem like he was a one-read/take off and run type QB.

Elmagister wrote:Someone will take him in the first though.

Matt Waldman touched on this in his podcast today (speaking generally, not about Murray).

He should go in the first if his commitment isn't an issue. I don't like his size, but good QBs are hard to come by. Would rather take a chance on a talented guy than try and mold a poor QB with ideal size into a good QB.
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5'9".... Scott Boras agent.


This is a ploy. He's no first rounder.

He's playing baseball.

Vegas builds Taj Mahal hotels and casinos on the profits from guys who bet on 5'9" QBs.
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He’s kind of forcing teams that want him to snag him in the 1st. If he now goes in the 2nd or later, teams should rightfully worry he’ll leave for baseball. This is kind of brilliant if you ask me.
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Ugh
I’m ready for the off-season and also not ready for the off-season
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Ian Wharton has a whole Twitter thread on Kyler Murray.

Travis Wingfield has been publishing stuff also. He is pushing him for Phins.
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I hope Armando's columns about tanking and taking a QB in 2020 are accurate.
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I haven't been paying attention to him but I don't mind hanging on to Tannehill either way. Also don't mind going high on QB each year if we have to. Although I realise most others won't be into that.
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