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Also, this seems to be an issue that Florio seems to have a bug up his butt about, simple fact of the matter, it would be all time stupid for them to let Wilson go.
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rugger48 wrote:draft picks are great, but the teams you think that have good gms dont hit on draft picks as much as people think they do.

Correct, which is why it's best to have more of them. If you don't? Then you better be right about them.
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OarChambo wrote:
rugger48 wrote:draft picks are great, but the teams you think that have good gms dont hit on draft picks as much as people think they do.

Correct, which is why it's best to have more of them. If you don't? Then you better be right about them.



Im not saying your wrong, but the support system needs to be there, it a cyclical thing. Ravens for the past 18 years is the best example I see, your still going to have those down seasons.(unless youir the pats.)
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rugger48 wrote:
OarChambo wrote:
rugger48 wrote:draft picks are great, but the teams you think that have good gms dont hit on draft picks as much as people think they do.

Correct, which is why it's best to have more of them. If you don't? Then you better be right about them.



Im not saying your wrong, but the support system needs to be there, it a cyclical thing. Raven for the past 18 years is the best example I see, your still going to have those down seasons.(unless youir the pats.)

...and the Ravens have been masters of the comp pick formula - and don't make a habit of trading away their early round picks. Philly and New England seem to follow a similar model. If I'm wrong about any of those 3 then re-direct, but that's been my perception. Of course you're not going to be great every season, but it's a model that gives you the best chance to be successful each season. It enhances the window.

Fire more bullets then retain the core pieces you hit then recoup comp picks on the non-core pieces you lose and forget about the misses.
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Just to clear the jibbar jabber in my brain that Im trying to type out. I think were at a point where the owners need to start changing the way the cap works in the overall scheme. How Im not sure, but its seems they have made it so the players would seem to want to take less to help the team, the problem is that doesnt help , because others who will just take a bigger piece of the pie.
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4 years, 140M. 65M guaranteed.
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Wow! That’s a huuuuge contract. Good for him, he deserves it.
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If thats the correct guarentees, thats a big contract, but the Seahawks did fairly well on that part.
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Never mind that’s the signing bonus, the guarentees are 107 million
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Wow. I would have traded him at that price. Or had him play 2019 on his contract at $25 million. Tagged him in 2020 for $30 million. Tagged him again in 2021 for $36 million. That is 3 years at $91 million. And the CBA expires at that point so he is a FA (3rd tag would be $51 million), but unless the CBA is signed, he isn't going anywhere.

Try each off-season to get a deal, but not $35 million per year. That is too much of the salary cap. It leaves too little for the rest of the team.
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He can't be tagged a third time. Also banking on a collective bargaining agreement not being reached is a bizarre strategy.
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votingmachine wrote:Wow. I would have traded him at that price. Or had him play 2019 on his contract at $25 million. Tagged him in 2020 for $30 million. Tagged him again in 2021 for $36 million. That is 3 years at $91 million. And the CBA expires at that point so he is a FA (3rd tag would be $51 million), but unless the CBA is signed, he isn't going anywhere.

Try each off-season to get a deal, but not $35 million per year. That is too much of the salary cap. It leaves too little for the rest of the team.


This is an extension so he’ll be getting $31.4m on average over 5 years. How is 3 years /$91m better? It’s the same, you just have him longer. And without the year to year drama of tagging.
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votingmachine wrote:Wow. I would have traded him at that price. Or had him play 2019 on his contract at $25 million. Tagged him in 2020 for $30 million. Tagged him again in 2021 for $36 million. That is 3 years at $91 million. And the CBA expires at that point so he is a FA (3rd tag would be $51 million), but unless the CBA is signed, he isn't going anywhere.

Try each off-season to get a deal, but not $35 million per year. That is too much of the salary cap. It leaves too little for the rest of the team.

That sorta instability is inviting an implosion from within. This is the price of poker once you're in this deep. And why more young, cost controlled players are so important before getting to this point.