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if the dude is giving halfass effort on TD targets, can we just dismiss it as ‘just a rookie’?
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endzoneview wrote:if the dude is giving halfass effort on TD targets, can we just dismiss it as ‘just a rookie’?

If you put the microscope on any player then you will find evidence like that. The difference is a rookie has not had an opportunity to develop a track record. And the microscope is being applied because of what he did week 1, the unrealistic expectations that followed, and that he didn't do anything the last 2 weeks.

Rookies are not consistent. The ones that are? Unicorns. Expect them not to be though.
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With all that said I’m still giving him another week.

I wasn’t expecting week 1 every week. I just wanted a bad Delanie Walker game out of him.
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endzoneview wrote:With all that said I’m still giving him another week.

I wasn’t expecting week 1 every week. I just wanted a bad Delanie Walker game out of him.

Delanie Walker is the #1 option in his run-based team's passing game, an established vet with a track record of not putting up (m)any duds. Hock is not the #1 option in his run-based team's passing game and has not had an opportunity to develop a track record.
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Umm, I wasn’t directly comparing them per se, just saying I wanted 3 and 40 yards, ie a “bad Delanie Walker” day.

You can pick a different tight end if it suits you better
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endzoneview wrote:Umm, I wasn’t directly comparing them per se, just saying I wanted 3 and 40 yards, ie a “bad Delanie Walker” day.

You can pick a different tight end if it suits you better

Eric Ebron was the #4 TE in the game last year. He finished the season with 110 targets. And he failed to get to 40 yards six times. To be fair he scored in two of those six games though.
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Ok, not Ebron. Someone else.

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OarChambo wrote:
endzoneview wrote:if the dude is giving halfass effort on TD targets, can we just dismiss it as ‘just a rookie’?

If you put the microscope on any player then you will find evidence like that. The difference is a rookie has not had an opportunity to develop a track record. And the microscope is being applied because of what he did week 1, the unrealistic expectations that followed, and that he didn't do anything the last 2 weeks.

Rookies are not consistent. The ones that are? Unicorns. Expect them not to be though.


Right, which is why it's not worth holding him for redraft.

Dyno? Sure, if your bench allows it keep him as a stash and see what changes.

The Fantasy season is 13 games before the playoffs (for most leagues?) you usually cannot afford to risk the floors of someone like this because a couple extra loses is such a huge deal.
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He was literally the first on the list after the elite tier. The second? Jared Cook. He was a big drop off from Ebron and there's a big drop off from him to the next group. He was the only other TE aside from Ebron and the elite tier with > 100 targets. And he failed to hit that 40 yard number nine times. And only scored in two of those nine games.

This is just the nature of the beast at TE. Pick a stud, accidentally stumble upon one, or play roulette with the pile of unreliable options.
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Detroit's supposed run first team pounded the rock up the middle 27 times at 1.6 yards per carry for 42 yards (minus Mckissic's 44 yard reverse). The run blocking has been atrocious. I don't recall the run pass breakdowns for the first two weeks but I don't buy the run first team under Bevell narrative.

Stafford was off yesterday as well. The receivers were diving all over the place for some of the throws. I will say that Stafford does spread the ball around and doesn't seem to have a clear favorite yet. Hock, Amendola, Golladay and Jones have each had 100yd days.

I still think Hock=Unicorn. The play in the back of the endzone was just a rookie mistake with lack of awareness rather than lack of effort, in my opinion.
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He made some nice moves, but some bad mistakes, too. Had a couple close calls where a TD may have been the result.
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The bottom line is that he's not producing, and he's not getting targets to warrant playing him either.

Make whatever excuses you want to make for his lack of production. The problem is that he is lacking production.

I don't see how anyone continues to start him at this point. Whether you hold on to him or not depends on individual league settings.
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ubertaco wrote:The bottom line is that he's not producing, and he's not getting targets to warrant playing him either.

Make whatever excuses you want to make for his lack of production. The problem is that he is lacking production.

I don't see how anyone continues to start him at this point. Whether you hold on to him or not depends on individual league settings.

It isn't excuses. It's the reality of a rookie tight end. If you expected something different than high variance then that's a you thing. If you weren't willing to ride through the low's then why get on in the first place.

Not meaning to salt in wound this - just what I'm reading right now strikes me as a process failure. Think about your process before replacing him.
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It’s not even “because rookie tight end” it’s just the tight end position if you didn't take a top 4 guy
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more like T.J. Blockenson amirite?