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Mad_Puppy wrote:Time to kill this thread.....Minshew looked so aweful on national TV, the Jags are already making plans for the #1 pick in the 2021 Draft......


They were making those plans before the season started
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Budmonsan wrote:
Mad_Puppy wrote:Time to kill this thread.....Minshew looked so aweful on national TV, the Jags are already making plans for the #1 pick in the 2021 Draft......


They were making those plans before the season started


Perhaps, but I don't know if it's that's cut and dry.

A lot of the moves they made that made people assume they were tanking looks a lot better now that we've seen how well James Robinson and Josh Jones have played.
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1 QB leagues... I’m cutting bait on Minshew. TNF showed me a scary low floor in what should have been a plus matchup.
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Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said he plans to make changes coming out of the team's Week 8 bye.
"I'm going to look at some things, I want to go a little outside the box," said Marrone. "I'm going to go after it and however it falls, it falls, but it's open for me. I've done crazy [stuff] before." ESPN's Michael DiRocco believes benching Gardner Minshew "certainly could be on the table." The Jaguars are winless in six straight games and desperate for a spark. Jake Luton — who threw for 2,714 yards with a 28:3 TD/INT ratio at Oregon State last year — could potentially take over for Minshew after Jacksonville's bye.
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Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said he plans to make changes coming out of the team's Week 8 bye.
"I'm going to look at some things, I want to go a little outside the box," said Marrone. "I'm going to go after it and however it falls, it falls, but it's open for me. I've done crazy [stuff] before." ESPN's Michael DiRocco believes benching Gardner Minshew "certainly could be on the table." The Jaguars are winless in six straight games and desperate for a spark. Jake Luton — who threw for 2,714 yards with a 28:3 TD/INT ratio at Oregon State last year — could potentially take over for Minshew after Jacksonville's bye.


Curious how many wins gets an entry into the Trevor lottery? 0? 1? 2?


Currently 13 teams are 2 wins or less and only about 6 of them wouldn't take Trevor (Texans, Giants?, Vikings?, Bengals, LAC, PHI?).

Of course those teams that wouldn't take Trevor have a good chance of winning games and getting pushed out anyway.

Teams that would take Trevor are obviously: NYJ, ATL (trade off matty ice), JAX, DAL (jerruh gets his white QB), WAS, DEN, NEP


Only reason Jets probably haven't fired Adam Gase is he has the best chance for a perfect season.
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I get why Jacksonville would bench Minshew.

He's not great but he can show flashes and those flashes are going to potentially run the risk of
- getting wins they don't want
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- the availability for a narrative to be built that he's an answer when they feel like he's not.
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jnadke wrote:
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Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said he plans to make changes coming out of the team's Week 8 bye.
"I'm going to look at some things, I want to go a little outside the box," said Marrone. "I'm going to go after it and however it falls, it falls, but it's open for me. I've done crazy [stuff] before." ESPN's Michael DiRocco believes benching Gardner Minshew "certainly could be on the table." The Jaguars are winless in six straight games and desperate for a spark. Jake Luton — who threw for 2,714 yards with a 28:3 TD/INT ratio at Oregon State last year — could potentially take over for Minshew after Jacksonville's bye.


Curious how many wins gets an entry into the Trevor lottery? 0? 1? 2?


Currently 13 teams are 2 wins or less and only about 6 of them wouldn't take Trevor (Texans, Giants?, Vikings?, Bengals, LAC, PHI?).

Of course those teams that wouldn't take Trevor have a good chance of winning games and getting pushed out anyway.

Teams that would take Trevor are obviously: NYJ, ATL (trade off matty ice), JAX, DAL (jerruh gets his white QB), WAS, DEN, NEP


Only reason Jets probably haven't fired Adam Gase is he has the best chance for a perfect season.


The Jets Re-Build thread is doubling as my Tank for Trevor thread every Monday

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endzoneview wrote:updated 2021 draft order because this is all I hope for now -

PICK TEAM RECORD SOS
1. NY Jets 0-7 .590
2 NY Giants 1-6 .533
3. Jacksonville 1-6 .565
4. Atlanta 1-6 .574
5 HoustonMIA 1-6 .589
6. Minnesota 1-5
7. Cincinatti 1-5-1

Jets "leading" the way with 0 wins but there are 7! one win teams close behind.

Jets remaining schedule -


WEEK 8 @KC - forfeit
WEEK 9 V NE - loss
BYE - loss
WEEK 11 @SDC - loss, could beat this team at home but not traveling West
WEEK 12 V MIAMI - likely loss but I'm still going to count this as winnable because I don't see Miami as a playoff contender
WEEK 13 V OAK - winnable
WEEK 14 @SEA - loss
WEEK 15 @LAR - back to back road games out West, both losses
WEEK 16 V CLE - winnable
WEEK 17 @ NEP - winnable only because Belichick will probably throw this game to make sure the Jets don't get Lawrence

remaining schedule - 4 winnable, 5 guaranteed losses

of the 'winnable', at most they win 2. At worst, they win none.


Updated draft order above -

no change on the ROS predictions although the Patriots may be inching closer to the "winnable" category.
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Gardner Minshew is dealing with multiple fractures and a strained ligament in this right thumb.
The coaching staff reportedly didn't know Minshew had been dealing with his injuries since Week 5 against Houston. As it stands, he's currently uncertain for Jacksonville's Week 9 home contest when the team returns from its bye. Veteran Mike Glennon was the active backup against the Chargers, but it makes sense the organization would promote sixth-round rookie Jake Luton for evaluation reps at 1-6. It's something to monitor at next week's practices.


Wonder if Marrone did know something, but they are pretending they did not as he is making plans for changes
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Marrone did say he was going to think outside the box when making changes
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Feels odd to me that the team did not know he has been dealing with a thumb injury for a few weeks, and "discover" it during their bye week just after Marrone announced he will be making some outside the box changes.

I don't think it is wrong that they are thinking about how to shake things up, but now benching Minshew becomes a medical necessity rather than a coaching decision to evaluate other players. I could be reading more into this than is there, but seems like a good way to try a QB change without any blame if it doesn't go well because now they have to.
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If I’m in a deep 2QB league, I would consider rostering Jake Luton.

I watched him play a lot at Oregon State, and he actually reminds me a lot of another former Beavers QB, Derek Anderson. Probably a bit more athletic than Anderson, but similar in that he has an absolute cannon, is wildly inaccurate at times, and will probably have at least a few weeks of fantasy success before defenses figure him out. Might be worth a FA flyer depending on your situation.
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Didn’t Marrone say changes were going to happen because things change and he was outside the box during change
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SJSwarm wrote:If I’m in a deep 2QB league, I would consider rostering Jake Luton.

I watched him play a lot at Oregon State, and he actually reminds me a lot of another former Beavers QB, Derek Anderson. Probably a bit more athletic than Anderson, but similar in that he has an absolute cannon, is wildly inaccurate at times, and will probably have at least a few weeks of fantasy success before defenses figure him out. Might be worth a FA flyer depending on your situation.

just picked him up yesterday in my superflex dynasty...worth a shot.
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SJSwarm wrote:If I’m in a deep 2QB league, I would consider rostering Jake Luton.

I watched him play a lot at Oregon State, and he actually reminds me a lot of another former Beavers QB, Derek Anderson. Probably a bit more athletic than Anderson, but similar in that he has an absolute cannon, is wildly inaccurate at times, and will probably have at least a few weeks of fantasy success before defenses figure him out. Might be worth a FA flyer depending on your situation.


Sounds like an old Josh Allen evaluation
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At least Luton will have some time to practice with 1st team before week 9..
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