pwbowen wrote: jamcutpost wrote:
pwbowen wrote:1.) You're referencing are article from one of the worst and most imbecilic writers I've ever seen. His recent column was "My Pretend Interview with Jerry Richardson and what I imagine he'd say" might be his career highlight.
2.) The concept itself it stupid. You don't get better sitting around or just working out. If you did, holdout guys wouldn't come in a step behind.
3.) Odds of an injury aren't as high as positions such as RB and WR, but lazy journalists just go "but but but Lattimore!!!"
It's a dumbazz idea. And I would have said the same thing if it was Jarvis Jones we were talking about 8 months ago. Or Luck 2 years ago.
1.) Ive no idea tbh. But i believe you
It was just the first article that popped up. There are other articles by other writers. Its the point rather than their skill i was after
2.) Stupid, yes. If he stays healthy. Any injury and the converse becomes true.
Personally i think a better option which hasnt been looked at would be to go to the CFL for a year as a bridge: Hed be insured, hed be getting paid and hed be getting a little more experience than he would in college ball.
3.) Yup RB > All injury wise. The comparison might be lazy (tho it wont be for Clowney), the risk exaggerated, but heres the thing - In terms of risk:reward playing next year nets him what? Not alot.
I agree, sitting/ pro training wouldnt net him alot, either
The insurance thing is great, but all he'll get is a $5mill settlement (The max allowed under NCAA regs) if things go awry. There is also no loss of earnings provision in NCAA insurance. A potential loss then of (a minimum) $6-7million Vs playing for free and not improving his draft stock..
I dont think comparing him to Luck is anymore useful than comparing him to Leinart or Lattimore, and you werent wholly supportive of Luck returning either iirc
Comparing Jones to Clowney is "apples & oranges" for me, though. Clowney's problem is age not. Jones going back proved that his 2011 (post-redshirt in 2010 and post injury in 2009) wasnt a one year thing and he has durability. It increased his stock. Clowney's stock wont increase by playing another year.
#2 You are incorrect. Spinal injury or head trauma, yes. But let's say he blows out a knee, he's probably still a 1st round pick. So an injury wouldn't be catastrophic as the empty heads are blathering.
CFL money? I know the exchange rate is good that way but it's not like CFL money would go very far anyway. That insurance that you snicker at is probably a great deal more than CFL.
I didn't clamor for Luck to go pro based on injury scare, just the fact that he was completely ready for the NFL.
All the slurping of Clowney aside, another year against SEC competition will do him good. He didn't exactly dominate in a lot of games and he needs to put on a little more weight.
I dont think i snickered at the insurance money
I did weight it against the loss of his 1st round signing and contract (its less). Against potential earnings, its much worse. The CFL money might be less than the pro money, it might also be less than the insurance payout - but its lot more than the money hes going to get paid next year by his team
If hes going to get injured, may as well get paid for it AND have CFL insuarance coverage (which will pay more) than not get paid and have less coverage.
Head/Spine injury vs Knee? It all depends really ... It would have to be bad to knock him out of the first round. But we've seen it happen before. But he doesnt havent to be knocked out the 1st for this to make a huge difference to him. The difference between going first overall, mid round and at the back end of rnd 1 is circa $9 & $15million, respectively. So even a drop of a dozen spots is a big deal to a guy turning pro.
But how an injury could affect him aside? Lets say he "Djaxes" a few games? Wont help him. Wont hurt him, but ultimately it really wont help him. Lets say he does that and he dominates even less often than he did in 2011? We're now asking questions we werent even thinking of before.
Do i think any of that will happen? Like the injury scenario, i doubt it. Ultimately though, the likelihood isnt the point. The risks of all the above if he plays are low. But the risks if he doesnt play become zero ...
All power to him tho
The fact he hasnt cried foul to the NFL (ref:Age) or dithered about whether to play or not (which wont help the GC's), whilst being sensible enough to grab insurance is no bad thing.
Ref: Luck. Whatever youre reasons are? Ive absolutely no beef with them - just that you brought him up and said youd give him the same advice was all.
Overall, i dont think any player should leave early if it can be helped. Generally speaking i think theyre better players if they stay in school. But the NCAA really needs to start thinking about some way to remunerate these kids when/if things go wrong as the current package isnt good enough for kids near the top of the pyramid at their positions.
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