kkiddynamite21 wrote:Recently in one of my leagues these two trades were shot down... Personally Ive never been a fan of the veto bc it allows people to abuse it and control trades. Ive always felt that if something was way off or collusion was happening the league could speak up and commish could handle it. Wanted to get everybodys thoughts on this matter. After I really thought about it veto can really make/break a persons roster or at least have a bug outcome on their team/season.
Team A gives Julio/Chris Thompson
Team B gives Kerryon/Chris Warren
Team A gives Crabtree
Team B gives 19 1st(same team B as above that was set to receive Julio/Warren)
Team B obv attempting to upgrade the WR position..
I thought it was a steal for Julio and I wouldnt pay a 19 1st for Crabtree but I can see a scenario where if he performs well this year a team making a run would overpay for him. Just bc a trade is viewed as a “bad” trade doesnt mean its unfair. I made a bad trade in the same league but was in talks with several other owners and there were a lot of moving pieces. Not to get off subject but I made a “bad” trade and sold Brady/Alshon/19 1st for Mariota/Golladay/2.09(Burton) imo that trade was worse than either of the above trades. Im no fan of Alshon and it was a bad time to sell him but hes worth a late 1st... My team was in rebuild and I made a bad trade tk make a good one but walked away from the draft very happy.. is it time to get rid of the veto rule?
In my 10 team league, 4 vetoes will bring the trade to my ( as commissioner) attention, and I will decide accordingly. Unless I'm involved in the trade then the co-commissioner will decide.
The following comes straight from my league's constitution. Being as after a trade is agreed to, other teams can make "counter trades" this may alleviate your problem.
Owners can trade each NFL player only once per season and this includes the Regular Season and Postseason. Once a trade is agreed to and in the two day review period, the only way it can be cancelled, without a counter-trade being accepted, is if both owners agree to cancel it.
Owners will have a two day review period, to allow or veto each trade. If a trade has 3 or less vetoes, it will go through. If it has 4 or more vetoes, it will go to the Commissioner's attention for review. The owners that vetoed the trade must give a written explanation as to their reasoning to the Commissioner, within 24 hours of their veto. The Commissioner will decide, if the trade goes through.
In addition, all teams will be able to offer a counter-trade, to replace the original. For example, if team A and team B agree to a trade and team C makes a better offer to team A, and team A accepts prior to the two day review period expiring, then team A's trade with team B won't be completed and team A and team C will trade players. If team D makes a better offer to team A before the two day review period expires with team C, and team A accepts, then team A and team D will trade players. There is no limit to how many counter-trades can be made, as long as each two day review period has not expired.
All trades must be agreed to and under review by 12:00am Thursday of Week 12 (Thanksgiving Day), in order to be completed.