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zuggyawesome wrote:I'm slightly intrigued by Devin Singletary here, behind a revamped O-line and a mobile QB.

Is there any chance he ends up the lead back here? His tape is mighty impressive, but it was against subpar competition and he tested as a pathetic athlete.


He’s an intriguing combo of small and slow.
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zuggyawesome wrote:I'm slightly intrigued by Devin Singletary here, behind a revamped O-line and a mobile QB.

Is there any chance he ends up the lead back here? His tape is mighty impressive, but it was against subpar competition and he tested as a pathetic athlete.


He’s an intriguing combo of slow.


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zuggyawesome wrote:I'm slightly intrigued by Devin Singletary here, behind a revamped O-line and a mobile QB.

Is there any chance he ends up the lead back here? His tape is mighty impressive, but it was against subpar competition and he tested as a pathetic athlete.


He’s an intriguing combo of slow.


FTFY


So we're excluding the chance he's a starting caliber running back because of his hilariously poor combine? Kareem Hunt tested only marginally better, and while he was definitely buoyed by a great situation, I don't think it's impossible for Singletary to be a solid RB2 if he's given starter touches. He does have production and draft capital on his side...
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He’s also 5’7” 200 lbs. he’s not small for his size , but a starter at that height and weight? Maybe he will be used for that for a season, but he most likly be sharing the backfield for most of his career.
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Not saying he can’t be a good back who contributes. His ceiling is going to be 10-15 on average at different places on the field. Thats not a bad thing. Tarik Cohen is a great example. Honestly, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but he might want to drop 5-10 lbs. it won’t change his type of game and might help him be a little quicker.
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rugger48 wrote:Not saying he can’t be a good back who contributes. His ceiling is going to be 10-15 on average at different places on the field. Thats not a bad thing. Tarik Cohen is a great example.


BMI has a higher correlation than raw weight for a RB's workload durability; and his BMI is in the 82nd percentile in the NFL (MJD for instance was 5'7 208).

Now, he's nowhere close to the athlete MJD or Cohen were/are; but I'm not all that concerned with his ability to handle a sizeable workload for a few seasons.
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zuggyawesome wrote:
rugger48 wrote:Not saying he can’t be a good back who contributes. His ceiling is going to be 10-15 on average at different places on the field. Thats not a bad thing. Tarik Cohen is a great example.


BMI has a higher correlation than raw weight for a RB's workload durability; and his BMI is in the 82nd percentile in the NFL (MJD for instance was 5'7 208).

Now, he's nowhere close to the athlete MJD or Cohen were/are; but I'm not all that concerned with his ability to handle a sizeable workload for a few seasons.



I am, Ive seen this before. I always defend these types of players, but too many fall between the cracks. I think he can be paired up with a typical type back, but slow and small isn’t a great way to come into the nfl. I think he has a use, but buffalo needs to find the the right use and the right involvement in the offense for him.


BMI, meh, it’s deceiving also. I’d like to see him under 190.
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zuggyawesome wrote:
rugger48 wrote:Not saying he can’t be a good back who contributes. His ceiling is going to be 10-15 on average at different places on the field. Thats not a bad thing. Tarik Cohen is a great example.


BMI has a higher correlation than raw weight for a RB's workload durability; and his BMI is in the 82nd percentile in the NFL (MJD for instance was 5'7 208).

Now, he's nowhere close to the athlete MJD or Cohen were/are; but I'm not all that concerned with his ability to handle a sizeable workload for a few seasons.



I am, Ive seen this before. I always defend these types of players, but too many fall between the cracks. I think he can be paired up with a typical type back, but slow and small isn’t a great way to come into the nfl. I think he has a use, but buffalo needs to find the the right use and the right involvement in the offense for him.


BMI, meh, it’s deceiving also. I’d like to see him under 190.


I agree Singletary is a long shot. I haven't pressed the button on him even late into the 2nd round of rookie drafts. Feels more like a 3rd round flier
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Ya, I like him too. I think the nfl is changing and these guys are going to be more of a fixture. Too much talent to look past.
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hawkdogger wrote:He’s an intriguing combo of slow.


FTFY


So we're excluding the chance he's a starting caliber running back because of his hilariously poor combine?


No.

Hawk made a joke, i made it more accurate - or at least in my opinion.

    Intriguing: Of interest
    Slow: Not fast

Noone said anything else (ref: startability), or mentioned the combine (he was slow before that).

If you watched his games vs worrying about the combine (Hint: Dont) that no one else had mentioned?
    - He is a patient runner, w/good vision
    - Is elusive
    - But gets caught by DBs (and we're not talking SEC elite athletes) ALL the time in the open field.
    - Break a lot of tkls
    - ... But those tkls are "questionable". Youll believe what you want, but this isnt like Bell carrying/ dragging 2-3 Nebraska players, but "breaking" 2-3 arm tackles and hand brushes.
    - Can go up the gut or outside
    - but (again) will need blocks executed if he goes outside, and even then he wont go to the house (20-25yds, maybe?).

Rams jumped ahead of BUF by a cpl spots and took Henderson.

That was the right move, hes the better back.

In FF terms - even ignoring Shady & Gore - redraft owners this year are just going to have to hope BUF commit to the run & provide more blockers, w/better execution, esp w/that lack of a top gear (that wasnt there against smaller schools & in every year he played at college)
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jamcutpost wrote:No.

Hawk made a joke, i made it more accurate - or at least in my opinion.

    Intriguing: Of interest
    Slow: Not fast

Noone said anything else (ref: startability), or mentioned the combine (he was slow before that).

If you watched his games vs worrying about the combine (Hint: Dont) that no one else had mentioned?
    - He is a patient runner, w/good vision
    - Is elusive
    - But gets caught by DBs (and we're not talking SEC elite athletes) ALL the time in the open field.
    - Break a lot of tkls
    - ... But those tkls are "questionable". Youll believe what you want, but this isnt like Bell carrying/ dragging 2-3 Nebraska players, but "breaking" 2-3 arm tackles and hand brushes.
    - Can go up the gut or outside
    - but (again) will need blocks executed if he goes outside, and even then he wont go to the house (20-25yds, maybe?).

Rams jumped ahead of BUF by a cpl spots and took Henderson.

That was the right move, hes the better back.

In FF terms - even ignoring Shady & Gore - redraft owners this year are just going to have to hope BUF commit to the run & provide more blockers, w/better execution, esp w/that lack of a top gear (that wasnt there against smaller schools & in every year he played at college)


It was in response to "is there any chance he ends up the lead back there"; so I just assumed his response was him not being interested... So even if he didn't directly spell out his skepticism for Singletary... it seemed reasonable that that was what he meant :lol:

Agree with your assessment of him, though. I know some people had him as their #1 RB in the entire draft so I was hoping for a hidden nugget to get me excited for him
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Is he the starter? Or was he vying for a starting role?
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