Need Shark Insight: Gurley Out

SweeMac · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 11:45 #1

I noticed in "Who sharks are starting" that Fournette is in many more lineups than Gurley. I have a choice between them in one of my two flex spots so I would love to know the thoughts here.

WR: C. Kirk, C. Ridley RB: J. Jacobs, S. Ahmed, in flex: C. Kupp and Gurley/Fournette. the only others available on the bench are P. Lindsay and J. Kelley

Budmonsan · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 12:25 #2

I don’t have either one but here’s the dilemma. Hurley is a Td defendant rb and fournette is in a split with rojo and the rams are real solid against the run so it’s really a coin flip and hope to get lucky. I’d probably go girly myself.

SweeMac · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 12:29 #3

Budmonsan wrote:I don’t have either one but here’s the dilemma. Hurley is a Td defendant rb and fournette is in a split with rojo and the rams are real solid against the run so it’s really a coin flip and hope to get lucky. I’d probably go girly myself.

Thank you! I was leaning towards Gurley because of touches per game but agree it is a toss up which was why I was so surprised by the difference with who Sharks were starting.

Budmonsan · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 12:31 #4

I could be wrong but I don’t think many of the sharks have to decide between the two. So, maybe the ones with fournette don’t have better options but the ones with gurley do

mstrbass2000 · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 12:36 #5

gurley for me over fournette whom may or may not split carries

SweeMac · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 12:38 #6

Budmonsan wrote:I could be wrong but I don’t think many of the sharks have to decide between the two. So, maybe the ones with fournette don’t have better options but the ones with gurley do

Good point!

ubertaco · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 13:02 #7

How is this even a question?

Gurley is getting sooo many more touches than Fournette and is being feed goal line carries. In fact, depending on scoring, Gurley is a top 10 RB this year.

Fournette is like what? Outside of the top 20 or 30?

Unless someone thinks Fournette is going to get a lot of work I don't see how he's being started over almost anyone.

SweeMac · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 19:27 #8

ubertaco wrote:How is this even a question?

Gurley is getting sooo many more touches than Fournette and is being fed goal line carries. In fact, depending on scoring, Gurley is a top 10 RB this year.

Fournette is like what? Outside of the top 20 or 30?

Unless someone thinks Fournette is going to get a lot of work I don't see how he's being started over almost anyone.

In this weekend's matchups, I get it. Gurley would have the better floor (although today he was in the cellar with only 9 touches) but Fournette has more upside and gets used more when Tampa is trailing or the game is tight. I would have loved to hear from those who were starting Fournette to see what went into their thought process. He was started by a pretty good margin over Gurley and they may all turn out to be right.

ubertaco · Posted Sun 11.22.2020, 20:10 #9

Clearly Gurley and the Falcons crapped the bed (credit to NOs D though, they did a hell of a job).

Still, I'm not sure that it's enough to just say Fournette is the better play in general.

Are these teams you're talking about carrying both Gurley and Fournette? If not then the data from wherever your got it needs to be parsed much more carefully.

In any case, I hope you chose Fournette for this week, seems likely that he'll outperform Gurley.

I had to choose between Gurley and Gordon, and I chose poorly

In my defense I was also starting the Dolphins D (also pretty ugly) so I figured I'd roll with the greater upside for my team. Well it might still work out, I have Mahomes vs. Tyreek and RoJo (standard league) at this point with a small lead, so we'll see.

ubertaco · Posted Wed 11.25.2020, 22:25 **#10**

I'm going to use this thread to ask this question.

Anyone have any insight on what might be going on with Gurley for this week? DNP (knee) was the report.

Is it worth taking a shot on Hill in case Gurley doesn't go? Are we sure Hill would be the guy to grab?

scootm44 · Posted Wed 11.25.2020, 22:32 **#11**

Hill is definitely the guy to grab.

But he's just a guy.

ubertaco · Posted Wed 11.25.2020, 22:57 **#12**

scootm44 wrote:Hill is definitely the guy to grab.

But he's just a guy.

Sure, but the RB pickings on my WW are pretty slim, and I kind of want Hill since I own Gurley and my normal backup RB is Dobbins who won't play.

It's a fairly decent matchup for the falcons anyway, so if Hill is going to get 75% or more of the snaps might as well give him a shot.

nosman21 · Posted Fri 11.27.2020, 17:32 **#13**

Todd Gurley OUT. I don’t need Hill this week (unless you’d play him over Mike Davis) — but moreso what could be if they shut Gurley down and/or to play keep away from other league managers.

Disclaimer — added Hill in both leagues.

Cyzmic · Posted Fri 11.27.2020, 18:04 **#14**

Came here to get sharks insight on this as well. I've got the jump right now on in my league (still FA), but yet to pull the trigger since I have to load up on backup plans to Lamar Jackson now.
Would have to drop someone like C. Lamb to grab him. Tempting.

Integ · Posted Fri 11.27.2020, 21:18 **#15**

Hill will be involved in the passing game much more than Gurley. I think Hill is an upgrade over Gurley. I have no dog in this fight. I think Hill sees the bulk of touches this week in the backfield.