Who will the Niners draft at 3?

Justin Fields
9
33%
Trey Lance
7
26%
Mac Jones
6
22%
Zach Wilson because the Jets aren't taking him
4
15%
someone else
1
4%
 
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Trade with the Niners and draft Fields!
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Trade with the Niners and draft Fields!



I would say yes, but what do they have to trade now?

Edit: just looked, they still have stuff they can move.
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Still think the pick here is Fields. Not saying the other two guys behind him cannot succeed, but I suspect the Niners identified their guy and traded up to get him. Sit him for most if not all of the season and trade Jimmy in the offseason.
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OarChambo wrote:Shanahan is a wizard that can make it work with just about any QB, but if this trade really was for Mac Jones then this was an awful move.


bluemist wrote:Went with Fields, but the only sure thing is they didn't give up those picks for a non-QB.

Jones makes no sense. They (probably) could have stayed at 12 and gotten him.



I hear this a lot, but what is this based on?

If the 9ers think he's worth trading up to #3 for, why do people assume other teams don't as well? I've heard a lot about CAR loving Mac Jones from their work with him at the Senior Bowl.


I was just about to say something similar. I heard that he generated alot of interest at the Senior Bowl, and from the reports I read / saw, alot of the analysts were saying scouts, coaches, etc. really love his intangibles - so exactly the kinds of things that WE as armchair scouts can't really know... things like leadership, how he gets along with other guys, how he motivates other guys, etc. etc. etc.

Numbers on paper and even film don't tell the whole story obviously, and intangibles are things you can't coach up, so I can see how a scout or coach could fall in love with a guy because of that, and then just convince themselves they can coach them out of any flaws in their game....
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bunnywafer wrote:
zuggyawesome wrote:
OarChambo wrote:Shanahan is a wizard that can make it work with just about any QB, but if this trade really was for Mac Jones then this was an awful move.


bluemist wrote:Went with Fields, but the only sure thing is they didn't give up those picks for a non-QB.

Jones makes no sense. They (probably) could have stayed at 12 and gotten him.



I hear this a lot, but what is this based on?

If the 9ers think he's worth trading up to #3 for, why do people assume other teams don't as well? I've heard a lot about CAR loving Mac Jones from their work with him at the Senior Bowl.


I was just about to say something similar. I heard that he generated alot of interest at the Senior Bowl, and from the reports I read / saw, alot of the analysts were saying scouts, coaches, etc. really love his intangibles - so exactly the kinds of things that WE as armchair scouts can't really know... things like leadership, how he gets along with other guys, how he motivates other guys, etc. etc. etc.

Numbers on paper and even film don't tell the whole story obviously, and intangibles are things you can't coach up, so I can see how a scout or coach could fall in love with a guy because of that, and then just convince themselves they can coach them out of any flaws in their game....

I too am in believe they didn't need to trade up to 3 for Jones...but we will see. I think it's all talk.
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bunnywafer wrote:
zuggyawesome wrote:
OarChambo wrote:Shanahan is a wizard that can make it work with just about any QB, but if this trade really was for Mac Jones then this was an awful move.


bluemist wrote:Went with Fields, but the only sure thing is they didn't give up those picks for a non-QB.

Jones makes no sense. They (probably) could have stayed at 12 and gotten him.



I hear this a lot, but what is this based on?

If the 9ers think he's worth trading up to #3 for, why do people assume other teams don't as well? I've heard a lot about CAR loving Mac Jones from their work with him at the Senior Bowl.


I was just about to say something similar. I heard that he generated alot of interest at the Senior Bowl, and from the reports I read / saw, alot of the analysts were saying scouts, coaches, etc. really love his intangibles - so exactly the kinds of things that WE as armchair scouts can't really know... things like leadership, how he gets along with other guys, how he motivates other guys, etc. etc. etc.

Numbers on paper and even film don't tell the whole story obviously, and intangibles are things you can't coach up, so I can see how a scout or coach could fall in love with a guy because of that, and then just convince themselves they can coach them out of any flaws in their game....

Given his physical makeup and actual play, the above should be expected. If Mac Jones is going to win at the next level then it'll be weighted heavily on what he is neck-up, on and off the field.
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They can coach Mac up all they want, but if he cannot make all the throws and cannot escape NFL pressure then the coaching can only go so far. SF's move only makes sense if the pick is Fields or Lance IMO. Upside baby.

I have 2000 sandies that says Mac is not the pick at #3.
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Justin Fields to throw for teams again before the 2021 NFL Draft, 49ers brass expected to attend, per report
Unlike his pro day, Fields is expected to throw with Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch in attendance

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-fields-to-throw-for-teams-again-before-the-2021-nfl-draft-49ers-brass-expected-to-attend-per-report/
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bluemist wrote:They can coach Mac up all they want, but if he cannot make all the throws and cannot escape NFL pressure then the coaching can only go so far. SF's move only makes sense if the pick is Fields or Lance IMO. Upside baby.

I have 2000 sandies that says Mac is not the pick at #3.


I don't necessarily disagree. I was also not making any comments on my personal opinion about him. (I don't have a firm opinion right now as I haven't dove into QB tape yet, but I doubt I'm going to come away with a vastly different opinion than the majority here...).

I was just echoing ziggy's comments about how just because we all think he would be there at 12 doesn't mean NFL guys think he will, and that's all that matters.

Similar to your comments here about coaching up and whether or not that's possible. You don't gotta convince ME that coaching him up might not be possible. You gotta convince an NFL coach or scout. Gonna guess there's alot of big egos out there that might have very high opinions on their coaching abilities.

On first blush, I definitely see more upside with guys like Fields or Lance.
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