Looking ahead: 2022 QB Class

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SJSwarm wrote: There is literally one first round QB in next years crop. FYI. Perhaps others will emerge, a la Wilson this year, but as of now it is Sam Howell or nothing.

Based on Ryan's reworked deal, they are likely looking at the 2023 QB class, which will likely be lead by DJ Uiagalelei and will be far deeper overall.


I agree with the overall context - that next year will be shallower :thumbright: , but disagree quite a bit with the highlighted part.

On a side note, i think it's important to add to Swarms good post & say that with potentially 8 QBs going in these 2 drafts? Cant think of any other B2B yrs like that.

2022 should be thought of as more of as a "return to the norm", than a "down year" :)

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I think there will be more than 1 QB drafted in 2022.

On NFL need alone, if not talent.

For historical context, 2013 was the last time only 1 QB was drafted - which also coincided with the last time a QB wasnt drafted top 15 either. Thanks EJ :F

2000 the year before that.

So, the odds are against it - usually it's 2-3.



Also, Howell's good, but so is Spencer Rattler :thumbright:

A year is a long time, but both look locked into 1st rnd slots as things stand & both occupy the top slots for 2021 Heisman betting (Rattler is #1, Howell #2 per vegas odds)

Not sure where Slovis & Strong will end up, but those are a cpl of the "other" guys (Barring, as Swarm said, someone a la Wilson) that teams would be planning to take a hard look at for 2022, as things stand right now.
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Yeah when I said there is literally one 1st round QB (as of now) in next years draft, I mean from a talent perspective. :thumbright:


As of now, I haven't seen enough of Rattler to have an opinion on his NFL future (but the highlight reels are nice), and Slovis is JAG. I like Daniels more than Slovis, and hell I might take Nix ahead of him too. From what I've read, Rattler is seen as a day 2 guy who could pop into the 1st.


The class is so bad that Walterfootball had Tyler Freaking Shough as the #2 QB in the class until he transferred. As someone who has watched every single game he played at Oregon, I think that is comical. Dude ran away from competing with Ty Thompson, not a good look.
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SJSwarm wrote:Yeah when I said there is literally one 1st round QB (as of now) in next years draft, I mean from a talent perspective. :thumbright:


As of now, I haven't seen enough of Rattler to have an opinion on his NFL future (but the highlight reels are nice), and Slovis is JAG. I like Daniels more than Slovis, and hell I might take Nix ahead of him too. From what I've read, Rattler is seen as a day 2 guy who could pop into the 1st.


The class is so bad that Walterfootball had Tyler Freaking Shough as the #2 QB in the class until he transferred. As someone who has watched every single game he played at Oregon, I think that is comical. Dude ran away from competing with Ty Thompson, not a good look.


Same.

Rattler's worth a longer look imho.

Interesting your reading day 2, ive only read day 1 (1.01 in some places)



The Athletic (paywall) has Rattler #1 (HOU) and Howell #2 (DET).

Im probably going to give Shough a miss, too :)
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Very interesting. I'll admit I haven't really been doing my usual due diligence on QB's with my current QB situation in TPL.


I might not research another QB for a decade at this point :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Rattler certainly got better as 2020 progressed and if he picks up where he left off then kept rising then he can enter that conversation, but...that elicited a double take. Always preciate thoughtful outside the box opinions though. Er maybe I'm just the one outside the box.
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Couple more that I see mentioned in various mocks:

Malik Willis Liberty
Desmond Ridder Cincinnati
Carson Strong Nevada
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I'm all for Rattler..i like him even more than i did Kyler. Rattler is my #1 and i don't see that changing.
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SJSwarm wrote:Couple more that I see mentioned in various mocks:

Malik Willis Liberty
Desmond Ridder Cincinnati
Carson Strong Nevada

I won't write him off just yet, but Ridder needs to show a looooot more maturity in his game in 21 vs 20. Added Strong to my watch list when big brother got him into my twitter feed last week. If I had heard of him I had forgotten, but those clips were impressive.
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SJSwarm wrote:Couple more that I see mentioned in various mocks:

Malik Willis Liberty
Desmond Ridder Cincinnati
Carson Strong Nevada

I won't write him off just yet, but Ridder needs to show a looooot more maturity in his game in 21 vs 20. Added Strong to my watch list when big brother got him into my twitter feed last week. If I had heard of him I had forgotten, but those clips were impressive.



Interesting, I’ll have to check him out. I’ve seen bits of Willis, and I’ve long been a King apologist, but I can’t say I’ve seen Ridder or Strong play. We get a lot of MWC games out here because San Jose State lol

All I know is I think Slovis is gahbage.
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Oklahoma signal-caller Spencer Rattler is favored by the PointsBet sportsbook to hear his name called first in 2022, at +225 odds. Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield was the first overall pick in 2018, followed by Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray in 2019.

Next on the list is North Carolina quarterback Sam Howell (+350), Oregon defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux (+400), LSU cornerback Derek Stingley Jr. (+800), USC quarterback Kedon Slovis (+1000), Liberty quarterback Malik Willis (+1500), Georgia quarterback JT Daniels (+1800), Florida quarterback Emory Jones (+2000), Arizona State quarterback Jayden Daniels (+2000), and Notre Dame safety Kyle Hamilton (+2500). via PFT
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Howell >>> Rattler entering 2020. Maybe he continues to improve and is a traits based prospect.. but I don't buy that he's exceptionally accurate. Howell's going to get dinged a bit for not having elite traits.. but my bet is that hes' the reason Javtonte/Carter and Dyami were getting so much hype this year.

The Dark Horse for me in 2022 is Dillon Gabriel. Throws a fantastic deep ball, great arm strength.. Intermediate accuracy could use some work and he's only 6' 185lbs but at this point he looks like the best QB no one is talking about right now.

Slovis... yuck. Sam Darnold all over again.
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Completely agree re: gabriel. He's worth paying attention to.
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